From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-x229.google.com (mail-qa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2307C21F209; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id w8so5648656qac.28 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:06:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=ws/2sbeguY4tMGjUjzt2XGRE0ZMyM0ByyP3gy67OmGU=; b=iU7y2iTZzp8oLQxxTepXNY5xn8KU3X5BMXWKviEtHsKQozx/YnpnBtD+ra9DlIaSX4 oKTxA0Ats2/LyWSmbmnTZ24hkfMzuCFz5jjnP8NflknVKgwZuD/N6oIc9X+Bjv/LNUfV ngMVne9amx5zo7CPezXJgTcv9J49jJQaNBSYME4pc6LPlFNEe1XFWnSD3qwkkjviLdBi M/GOZYPfLQkXD4cDWSshgPn6J4Phb+scqxl6CN2mrhCBNs7R6syx2yiZalutZICYRQmV Eu0LJ6qOzVTLt2MHesSth9/m53FovDR2lmbPqeyuF5MLGaiKs60Y1AZ8bnzMLunjQXHY ASYw== X-Received: by 10.140.100.196 with SMTP id s62mr4752122qge.115.1390230361130; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-2114.home.lan ([64.223.225.159]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d7sm1383617qam.5.2014.01.20.07.06.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:06:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_232EB262-0268-4B8D-B412-326C9210CC40" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:06:00 -0500 Message-Id: References: To: Jim Gettys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: cerowrt@lists.bufferbloat.net, Steven Barth , Matt Mathis , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "cb.list6" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bug #438] 6relayd X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:06:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_232EB262-0268-4B8D-B412-326C9210CC40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: > If renumbering is going on, I'd complain at Comcast. I'd suspect it's = an artifact of an early deployment and testing rather than intentional = behavior. They get to deal with service calls from anything that = breaks, and this is still early days. Yes, but it will be a forcing function to drive along DNS naming as the = primary means of locating devices. I believe this is called "salvation through suffering" :-) --Apple-Mail=_232EB262-0268-4B8D-B412-326C9210CC40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Jim = Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> = wrote:

If renumbering is going on, I'd complain at Comcast. = I'd suspect it's an artifact of an early deployment and testing = rather than intentional behavior. They get to deal with service = calls from anything that breaks, and this is still early = days.

Yes, but it will be a = forcing function to drive along DNS naming as the primary means of = locating devices.

I believe this is called = "salvation through suffering" = :-)

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