From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-x22c.google.com (mail-qc0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8640A21F113 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id e16so2905835qcx.17 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=GPmUWcj+5yv2UOzay4DNCLTto3bZc3To5eFrgMAF7TA=; b=Ud/SDGavEQnEQ0jl/cNOABC+VQeYlX8i1d2lrN0GGVwOLoNoP06N4KE5WMeDCb22pH sWVrv1m2iopTmqIynGaAbnXsl7ZOV4vykqxyDC2RN1sstKAUmN8xvuDKU33o2btGonUo Zpj6uDb8mVhB8RyO8jJL2VvL+IpTqrr/41MPDapXW2CO8ddjHtr4BL0QyQzR0XR1rifZ JG/X7GyZLEVv/zfCvVQKyLDL8a0oKosRdpOvZ1ZS1Ws11rIrFynFpYevnnAskN9pkX4+ ulZjR0eWFLDA11mTzvhbPGbuDE57sTBdlzS/2beFk84qvFzQk2wMVc2Z1VJ70axbIt7q vthQ== X-Received: by 10.229.126.9 with SMTP id a9mr19746918qcs.0.1387586282484; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-1684.home.lan (pool-72-87-56-202.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net. [72.87.56.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z4sm9341592qeq.11.2013.12.20.16.38.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:37:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <34E77F64-739C-49E4-B8A4-6ABBEAE4174B@gmail.com> <8DB84101-C942-49C4-99F0-6C9319961297@gmail.com> <22176178-A50F-48F2-A3A1-D3853764AD0E@gmail.com> <0E267F91-3CC8-48F4-92C0-AD8BACA98FCC@gmail.com> <1FA2FD44-D715-4B50-BB5A-BAF61070970B@gmx.de> <31B5B61B-4E58-4C5E-8F33-710CCE0918F4@gmail.com> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:38:03 -0000 Folks, I have updated the CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page. Thanks for all the comments, = I=92ll incorporate more comments as people send them in. Some thoughts = on the page so far: - I agree that we should keep the descriptions generic (that is, not = tailored specifically to CeroWrt) so we can push into OpenWrt without = changes.=20 - It=92s also a good idea to look for good marketing name (SQM, IQM, = etc) so that we can tout the goodness of the fq_codel, &c. I=92ll submit = another proposal on the =93Anything but =91AQM=92=94 thread. - I removed references to calling the ISP - sometimes it could work, but = I see now how it could also be problematic. - I prefer telling people to decide on their link layer adaptation using = the term =93ADSL=94 instead of =93ATM=94 (even though it=92s technically = more true) since nobody knows what ATM is, and they (most likely) do = know whether they have DSL, Cable, Fiber, or something else=85 - I wasn=92t clear where a decision about overhead of 40 or 44 comes = from, or where it should be described. - Are there any better (but still easy to use) speed test tool besides = speedtest.net? - It=92s a good idea to make it easy for people to get back to defaults. = Could there be a =93Restore Defaults=94 button on the Basic Settings = tab?=20 Draft #2 of the Setting up AQM page is available at: = http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWr= t_310 Thanks in advance for all your comments.=20 Rich PS And if you=92re running short of things to work on, the new =93Quick = Test for Bufferbloat=94 page *really* needs help.=20=