Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

[Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>]

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Since I kicked off this thread, let me second what David and Toke have said.

I used the wrong word - "stable" - when I really wanted a new stake in the ground. Our first was CeroWrt 3.7.5-2 - it was great. I used it for a long time before these newer builds got even better and I was willing to risk family ire. (So far, so good with 3.10.24-8). 

To continue to attract attention, I'd love to be able to post news about 3.10 on the main page of the Bufferbloat site. This would give a signal to technically savvy people that we're alive and kicking and making good things. (And many thanks for the outpouring of love and offers to help that have come in from some of the new members!)

We're still a research project. (Nobody has time for World Domination :-) A stable release with 1-2 year maintenance, etc. is *way* beyond our grasp. But I was hoping for another teaser build that addresses the worst of the problem that Dave identified.

Best,

Rich

Obligatory performance stats for 3.10.24-8. IPv4 only for the moment on my WNDR3700v2. I had to reset one of my Wifi interfaces the other day.

root@cerowrt:~# uptime
 07:57:57 up 7 days, 20:04,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.04
root@cerowrt:~# cat /sys/kernel/debug/mips/unaligned_instructions
25561
root@cerowrt:~# dmesg | grep "TX DMA"
[114502.492187] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x084!
[114504.027343] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x006!
root@cerowrt:~# dmesg | grep "checksum failed"
root@cerowrt:~# dmesg | tail -5
[559339.007812] gw01: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join
[559342.328125] gw01: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join
[559344.812500] gw01: Trigger new scan to find an IBSS to join
[559344.847656] gw01: Creating new IBSS network, BSSID 32:96:29:8f:34:d8
[559344.855468] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): gw01: link becomes ready
root@cerowrt:~#

On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:51 AM, David Personette <dperson@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Toke on this, cerowrt with a single supported router was never about mass adoption. I think everyone using it is in the self selected group of people that knew enough about networking to find why their internet connection was *breaking* for interactive use, then go out and buy a router that cost 2x-3x what other similar specification consumer units cost. As far as I recall, initial installation required TFTP. Not a real hurdle for many of us, but quite a barrier to the normal consumer. I've been using it for my primary router for over a year now, and have been very happy with it's stability and reliability. I've had to roll back a few builds, but no real issues otherwise. People that are here, are here to be where all the new development of consumer level implementations of internet protocols and things getting fixed is happening. My 2 cents.
> 
> -- 
> David P.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> Christopher Robin <pheoni@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > ***Are we here for research and development, or are we here for final
> > implementation?
> 
> I've always thought about CeroWRT as an R&D project. As Dave points out
> I don't think it's realistic to provide a "stable" release in the sense
> of having it upgraded and maintained. At least not as things stand now.
> However, designating a release as "stable" in the same way as the
> previous one (i.e. something that won't crash and where most or all of
> the advertised features (mostly) work) would probably be a good idea.
> In particular, crash bugs and things that are completely broken should
> probably be fixed?
> 
> 
> As far as my installation goes:
> 
> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/mips/unaligned_instructions
> 154737
> # uptime
>  10:39:18 up 5 days, 10:56,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.04
> # dmesg | grep "TX DMA"
> [348064.371093] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x004!
> # dmesg | grep "checksum failed"
> [13551.957031] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [16072.535156] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [22734.054687] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [93252.820312] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [96253.570312] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [106396.003906] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [156808.253906] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [163650.000000] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [224205.101562] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [269216.191406] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [276718.035156] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [316807.695312] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [329890.929687] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [333792.148437] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [399208.269531] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [410070.828125] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [435757.078125] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [441458.539062] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> [449560.417968] ICMPv6 checksum failed [2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0001 > 2001:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:0000:0000:0000:0002]
> 
> 
> I've had to re-initialise the wifi a couple of times for no apparent
> reason, and one or two reboots necessary, but nothing that major...
> 
> -Toke
> 
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