From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from alln-iport-2.cisco.com (alln-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.142.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "alln-iport.cisco.com", Issuer "HydrantID SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D21C521F2FD; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3916; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1425403251; x=1426612851; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=wHJHEx5/aq24faO2EnMppxI4yI2jyG+EFKEx5hT566I=; b=MiPPQurQnoJScmERYPlBQOTf+azPCEPZqagf2E5fQBI+nooI7D8vfSto AnkBA0GxRadrJaWQcq0d297FUtvbf+YibNZD5WTW+14InntDCMnRyEg5F XBTH5BuTtcH5TNmOHlJTwLr66LckdL740lod20s9uJjYE+r/Hc52bfFtn I=; X-Files: signature.asc : 487 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CuBQDi7PVU/4YNJK1agj9DgSwExzQCgShNAQEBAQEBfIQPAQEBAwF5BQsCAQgEFC4hESUCBA4FDogNAwkI0RYNhRABAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEXixKCRIIqB4MXgRQBBI95gWGBLoRygUiNU4YMI4Nub4FEfwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,682,1418083200"; d="asc'?scan'208,217";a="128515389" Received: from alln-core-12.cisco.com ([173.36.13.134]) by alln-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2015 17:20:21 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com [173.36.12.84]) by alln-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t23HKLZL024835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Mar 2015 17:20:21 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x09.cisco.com ([169.254.9.149]) by xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com ([173.36.12.84]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 11:20:20 -0600 From: "Fred Baker (fred)" To: Dave Taht Thread-Topic: [aqm] ping loss "considered harmful" Thread-Index: AQHQVdZS6qKPtbDINUGIJqwbjfJDQw== Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 17:20:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.19.64.116] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E945017A-2673-43FC-94D7-1741C7B0DC61"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [aqm] ping loss "considered harmful" X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:20:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E945017A-2673-43FC-94D7-1741C7B0DC61 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4247D6D0-85BA-4CF2-BD51-C28C42CE286D" --Apple-Mail=_4247D6D0-85BA-4CF2-BD51-C28C42CE286D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > How can we fix this user perception, short of re-prioritizing ping in > sqm-scripts? IMHO, ping should go at the same priority as general traffic - the = default class, DSCP=3D0. When I send one, I am asking whether a random = packet can get to a given address and get a response back. I can imagine = having a command-line parameter to set the DSCP to another value of my = choosing. --Apple-Mail=_4247D6D0-85BA-4CF2-BD51-C28C42CE286D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= wrote:

How can we fix this user perception, short of = re-prioritizing ping in
sqm-scripts?

IMHO, ping should go at the same priority as general traffic = - the default class, DSCP=3D0. When I send one, I am asking whether a = random packet can get to a given address and get a response back. I can = imagine having a command-line parameter to set the DSCP to another value = of my choosing.= --Apple-Mail=_4247D6D0-85BA-4CF2-BD51-C28C42CE286D-- --Apple-Mail=_E945017A-2673-43FC-94D7-1741C7B0DC61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEVAwUBVPXtUp9ieig10VPpAQIt6Af+JCo1GZyrPjZmIiENs8XRA85pXdu52kcV BcCqTNgf+Fsus0Zj0+KNE7luoKufCIxrAR2hsgeVMS4YpZy0Hs+QWqcG7DUyJSX7 O3M0jy68jN+9oeenr7mEyh4NllXNJDiJoZOG3SRaPNla/XPSKD+R+ILR6YTRf8um pSQPmHfgR4Lqdif9AXa+DQRECQa8Le3B+mImn3esoQl84rqW1E+4SQbYJS/vyGMK zg5LoeOqsq8cvtCEJCl3Sz0H9d6LgOWeSPnHZrRkHA53qDQirkuI1wv0WfIxRWOy EVwlobKQWyIHlPaYiqcrmQ11n1eA0Ra6/zVE+yqTDI8hpY/G7odaXA== =sAYg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E945017A-2673-43FC-94D7-1741C7B0DC61--