From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 610A421F0B0 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m8so17656802vcd.8 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:37:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=NKwlTdKz8xaMA3Wfn6xmh6S7WZN8aoj4mbTkQtuayPA=; b=M8Q1CXwmkvUUNnbAVmKc+4CNkruvqI9t2lza8zs34oKfwie5/S7eqg8RIJFUARFEPo 6qZjnmh5IE0e+90rSRwvduDmOnz0SQ8H4yhZdREv0ekhV6YEolbZjglm/7r9Ek+4MN/Z EPMjlMRnCr0ED6RGCSgBYilNHwgz90T/rE/fwgdQP5nJxrxE+42/xAZyHnWHkJkbe/bL 3+9sXivbKJpNbNYnyGr8lQ0vYrFbJgJ34Nk245uo72TwWC8vKaxDiJ3oftU2A5/kh+Fk qeNNTqMhOkXwOEwTMsLrMIEfCVgG4B4xRTNqqcfUGDEU1BOpwZNhbylLb4jnsnm/rYqw I1PQ== X-Received: by 10.52.23.37 with SMTP id j5mr69642650vdf.56.1357421870993; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:470:894b:100:6891:24e3:fdbf:6be1? ([2001:470:894b:100:6891:24e3:fdbf:6be1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ko19sm46117243veb.1.2013.01.05.13.37.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) From: William Katsak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 16:37:48 -0500 To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Anyone using PPPoE with Sugarland? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:37:52 -0000 Hello, I am experimenting with using Cero/Sugarland on a PPPoE connection, and = can't seem to find a config of simple_qos that works well. The service is DSL, PPPoE, 3M/768K. Without any qos, the router works = well, as expected. When I try to use simple_qos, the clients have = trouble loading websites (hangs while loading, etc). Netlyzer shows upstream buffering of about 650ms, consistently. I have = tried various higher and lower values for UPLINK and DOWNLINK, but = nothing seems to help. Anyway, I think 15-20% below link should be fine. Here is my config: UPLINK=3D550 DOWNLINK=3D1900 DEV=3Difb0 IFACE=3Dge00 DEPTH=3D42 TC=3D/usr/sbin/tc FLOWS=3D8000 PERTURB=3D"perturb 0" # Permutation is costly, disable FLOWS=3D16000 #=20 BQL_MAX=3D3000 # it is important to factor this into the RED calc CEIL=3D$UPLINK MTU=3D1492 ADSLL=3D"" PPOE=3Dyes Couple of things I am unsure about: 1) Should the IFACE be ge00 or pppoe-ge00? 2) Should the MTU be the pppoe mtu (1492) or the ethernet (1500) One last thing: I have the lan split up into VLAN interfaces se00.1, = se00.100, and se00.200. Everything otherwise works as expected with = these, but could the naming be breaking something? If anyone is willing to share a working configuration it would be much = appreciated. Thanks, Bill Katsak