From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx142.netapp.com (mx142.netapp.com [216.240.21.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx142.netapp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 International Server CA - G3" (not verified)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5066421F1B8; Tue, 19 May 2015 02:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,457,1427785200"; d="scan'208";a="42164374" Received: from hioexcmbx05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.122.105.38]) by mx142-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 19 May 2015 02:36:36 -0700 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.40) by hioexcmbx05-prd.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Tue, 19 May 2015 02:36:36 -0700 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([fe80::7ce8:9818:3705:3318]) by hioexcmbx07-prd.hq.netapp.com ([fe80::7ce8:9818:3705:3318%21]) with mapi id 15.00.1076.000; Tue, 19 May 2015 02:36:36 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Rich Brown Thread-Topic: [Bloat] Cira.ca network measurement system Thread-Index: AQHQkfDvyiXLLDLFFUyC9Z3+1qVNbp2DgA6A Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:36:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.2100) x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.120.60.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <74B412A4C380FE449FE7093105F5B248@hq.netapp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Cira.ca network measurement system X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:42:06 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:42:06 -0000 On 2015-5-18, at 23:48, Rich Brown wrote: >=20 > Last Saturday, I heard a piece on CBC Radio's Spark program about the CIR= A in Canada and their effort to map out network performance in order to get= better Internet service for everyone across Canada. You can listen to the = piece at: http://www.cbc.ca/radio/spark/286-empathy-games-intangible-art-an= d-more-1.3073000/test-your-internet-performance-crowdsource-too-1.3073048 Similar service out of Finland: http://www.netradar.org/ Lars >=20 > I went to their site http://cira.ca/performance and it seemed pretty good= . There were a *ton* of juicy measurements from the TCP stack when you clic= k the Advance results button. But - you guessed it - no latency measurement= s.=20 >=20 > So I sent them a note and within an hour (on a Saturday!) I got a note ba= ck from a real human. (Apparently, they've just rolled out the service, so = they're working hard to be responsive to all comers.) >=20 > I gave them the whole story about bufferbloat, and how valuable it would = be to have those latency measurements. The initial reaction (on a Saturday)= was sincere interest but no promises because they were just rolling out th= e service.=20 >=20 > It turns out that CIRA is using M-LAB for their test infrastructure. When= I first looked, that project seemed dormant on Google Code - not updated r= ecently. However, they just moved NDT to github (https://github.com/ndt-pro= ject/ndt) a couple weeks ago. And on http://www.measurementlab.net/tools/nd= t they mention a websockets (non-Java) version of the web test page. So per= haps there's hope for yet another good test suite.=20 >=20 > I sent my note to the generic IPT@cira.ca. If a couple more people sent n= otes of encouragement, perhaps they'll move it up in their queue. >=20 > And does anyone know about Measurement Labs? How might we cajole them int= o adding a bufferbloat/latency test? >=20 > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat