From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>,
Matt Taggart <matt@lackof.org>,
cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Ubiquiti Launches a Speed Test Network
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 20:33:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FE46A0E6-3A56-4D00-A400-BB6C57F02F2F@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ef0tz4p2.fsf@toke.dk>
Hi Toke,
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 19:59, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>
> Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> writes:
>
>> Hi Toke,
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:27, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2019, Matt Taggart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So an interesting idea but they have some things they could improve.
>>>>
>>>> I've been considering what one should run in parallel with the speed test
>>>> to get an impression if the speedtest impacts performance of other flows /
>>>> realtime flows, similar to what dslreports speedtest does.
>>>>
>>>> I've considered running one or several simulated voip calls (50pps) and
>>>> record RTT, PDV, packet loss etc for this session.
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting to hear any suggestions people have for a fairly
>>>> simple codebase that does this that can be included in these kinds of test
>>>> clients (both server and client end, and of course one that protects
>>>> against reflection attacks etc).
>>>>
>>>> iperf3 can be used for this, but from what I can see the iperf3 server
>>>> code isn't very friendly to multiple parallel tests or even resilient
>>>> against hung clients that doesn't close the test nicely.
>>>>
>>>> I also considered using WebRTC or VoIP libraries, does anyone know what
>>>> RTT/PDV/packet loss data can be extracted from some common ones?
>>>
>>> Pete coded up this wonderful tool for UDP-based latency testing; it's
>>> even supported in Flent, and available on some (all?) the public-facing
>>> servers:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/heistp/irtt
>>
>> This reminds of a tangentially related question, do we/could we
>> actually write the requested DSCP into the packet payloads so we could
>> see/display dscp bleaching/remapping packets experience during
>> transit? For irtt, ping and even netperf TCP/UDP flows?
>
> irtt could definitely do this; not sure if it does. Ping and Netperf,
> probably not...
From man ping (on linux):
-p pattern
You may specify up to 16 ``pad'' bytes to fill out the packet you send. This is useful for diagnosing data-depen‐
dent problems in a network. For example, -p ff will cause the sent packet to be filled with all ones.
From man ping (macosx 10.14):
-p pattern
You may specify up to 16 ``pad'' bytes to fill out the packet you send. This is useful for diagnosing
data-dependent problems in a network. For example, ``-p ff'' will cause the sent packet to be filled
with all ones.
With fping I come up empty
From man netperf (not sure how this wirks for servers):
-F fill_file
Pre-fill the send buffers with data from the named file. This is intended to provide a means for avoid-
ing buffers that are filled with data which is trivially easy to compress. A good choice for a file that
should be present on any system is this manpage - netperf.man. Other files may be provided as part of
the distribution.:
(so this would require us to distribute/generate 63 files for each dscp?)
From irtt help client:
--fill=fill fill payload with given data (default none)
none: leave payload as all zeroes
rand: use random bytes from Go's math.rand
pattern:XX: use repeating pattern of hex (default 69727474)
--fill-one fill only once and repeat for all packets
--sfill=fill request server fill (default not specified)
see options for --fill
server must support and allow this fill with --allow-fills
This might actually work, and if it required a packetdump to compare DSCP and intended DSCP that would already be much better than what we have today, no?
>
> -Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-06 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-04 19:51 [Cerowrt-devel] " Matt Taggart
2019-09-06 8:15 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-09-06 8:27 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-06 9:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-09-06 12:18 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-09-06 17:59 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-06 18:33 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2019-09-06 22:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-06 22:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-09-06 23:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-07 11:33 ` Pete Heist
2019-09-07 12:02 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-09-07 13:09 ` Pete Heist
2019-09-07 13:47 ` Valdis Klētnieks
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