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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" <aqm@ietf.org>,
	"Fred Baker \(fred\)" <fred@cisco.com>,
	"cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [aqm] the side effects of 330ms lag in the real world
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:16:48 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1404300815150.29282@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGhGL2Bzo1Jmq0Tu2t-3w+2m4Sy7BpOkBQE-_C3vAg75JZR=2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Jim Gettys wrote:

> Why would you think the GPON guys are any better in principle than cable or

Fiber != GPON. Fiber in Sweden is 99% active ethernet.

And the advertisement isn't about bufferbloat, I doubt they even know what 
that is... Upside is that the equipment used in Sweden is usually cheap 
ethernet switches which don't have buffering and might also use policing 
instead of shaping which makes bufferbloat problem basically go away, but 
on the other hand creates other problems.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-30  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-29  1:24 [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2014-04-29  7:08 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [aqm] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2014-04-29  7:21   ` Fred Baker (fred)
2014-04-29  7:56     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2014-04-29 15:46       ` Dave Taht
2014-04-29 16:51         ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Aaron Wood
2014-04-29 16:44       ` Jim Gettys
2014-04-29 16:57         ` Jim Gettys
2014-04-29 17:01         ` [Cerowrt-devel] [aqm] [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-04-29 17:07           ` Jim Gettys
2014-04-29 18:09             ` Greg White
2014-04-30  3:21           ` Dave Taht
2014-04-29 17:02         ` Dave Taht
2014-04-30  6:16         ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2014-04-29  7:43   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [aqm] " Tristan Seligmann
2014-04-29 23:01 Hal Murray

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