From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (mail.lang.hm [64.81.33.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65B5721F351; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id s5S1ArFS003395; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:10:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Michael Richardson In-Reply-To: <16169.1403645906@sandelman.ca> Message-ID: References: <53A9D92B.7010603@hp.com> <16169.1403645906@sandelman.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Rick Jones , cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?iso-8859-15?q?=5BBloat=5D=09_Dave_T=E4ht_quoted?= =?iso-8859-15?q?_in_the_ACLU_blog?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:11:01 -0000 On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Michael Richardson wrote: > Rick Jones wrote: > > Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply the business > > has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it might need/wish > > to have? > > That's a secondary decision. > Given roof space, solar panels and/or snow-outside, maybe the answer is that > I regularly have 2 our of 3 of those available in a decentralized way. given the amount of processing capacity that you can get today in a pasively cooled system, you can do quite a bit of serving from a small amount of space and power. The days when it took rooms of Sun boxes to saturate a Gb line are long gone, you can do that with just a handful of machines. David Lang