From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (mail.lang.hm [64.81.33.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8B8221F44E for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id s6INKS4t028074; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:20:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:20:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Jim Reisert AD1C In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fastpass: A Centralized "Zero-Queue" Datacenter Network X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:20:35 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > "Fastpass is a datacenter network framework that aims for high > utilization with zero queueing. It provides low median and tail > latencies for packets, high data rates between machines, and flexible > network resource allocation policies. The key idea in Fastpass is > fine-grained control over packet transmission times and network > paths." > > Read more at.... > > http://fastpass.mit.edu/ and all it takes is making one central point aware of all the communications that is going to take place so that it can coordinate everything. That is sure to scale to an entire datacenter, and beyond that to the Internet now, back in the real world, you can't reliably get that information for a single host, let alone an entire datacenter. not to mention the scalability issues in trying to get that info to a central point so that it can compute the N! possible paths for the data to take, along with the data from all the other systems to pack them most efficiently into the avilable paths. Someone may eventually make something useful out of this, but I think that it's at best a typical academic ivory tower type of solution. David Lang