From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: "Mike O'Dell" <mo@ccr.org>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 00:28:07 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1412210025510.10475@nftneq.ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6764.1419109075@ccr.org>
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014, Mike O'Dell wrote:
> 15.9bps/Hz is unlikely to be using simple phase encoding
>
> that sounds more like 64QAM with FEC.
> given the chips available these days for DTV, DBS,
> and even LTE, that kind of processing is available
> off-the-shelf (relatively speaking - compared to
> writing your own DSP code).
per the chart at
http://ubcdn.co/media/images/product-features/spectral-efficiency-image.jpg
(part of the link above), they use up to 1024 QAM (although the peak rate is
listed at 64 QAM)
I also wouldn't be surprised if their claim for 15.9bps/hz is the aggregate of
both directions at once.
David Lang
> keep in mind that the reason the 2.4 and 5.8 ISM bands
> are where they are is specifically because of the ready
> absorption of RF at those frequencies. the propagation
> is *intended* to be problematic. that said, with
> good-enough antennas mounted with sufficient stability
> and sufficient power on the TX end and a good enough
> noise floor on the RX end, one can push a bunch of bits
> pretty far.
>
> Bdale Garbee (of Debian fame) had a 10GHz bent-pipe repeater
> up on the mountain above Colo Spgs for quite some time. X-band
> Gunnplexers were not hard to come by and retune for the
> 10GHz ham band. i believe he just FM'ed the Gunnplexer
> with the output of a 10Mbps ethernet chip and ran
> essentially pure Aloha. X-band dishes are relatively
> small and with just a few stations in the area he had fun.
>
> -mo
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2014-12-20 20:57 ` Mike O'Dell
2014-12-21 2:37 ` David P. Reed
2014-12-21 8:32 ` David Lang
2014-12-21 16:45 ` David P. Reed
2014-12-21 19:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-12-23 2:16 ` dpreed
2014-12-23 16:10 ` dpreed
2014-12-21 8:28 ` David Lang [this message]
2014-12-23 4:45 Eric Johansson
2014-12-23 22:15 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-12-24 22:03 ` Roman Toledo Casabona
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