On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 23 Mar, 2015, at 02:24, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> I have long maintained it was possible to build a better fq_codel-like >> policer without doing htb rate shaping, ("bobbie"), and I am tempted >> to give it a go in the coming months. > > I have a hazy picture in my mind, now, of how it could be made to work. > > A policer doesn’t actually maintain a queue, but it is possible to calculate when the currently-arriving packet would be scheduled for sending if a shaped FIFO was present, in much the same way that cake actually performs such scheduling at the head of a real queue. The difference between that time and the current time is a virtual sojourn time which can be fed into the Codel algorithm. Then, when Codel says to drop a packet, you do so. > > Because there’s no queue management, timer interrupts nor flow segregation, the overhead should be significantly lower than an actual queue. And there’s a reasonable hope that involving Codel will give better results than either a brick-wall or a token bucket. are we running into performance issues with fq_codel? I thought all the problems were with HTB or ingress shaping. David Lang