Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project
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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
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Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 01:23:26 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1507010119530.7547@nftneq.ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506302151240.9487@uplift.swm.pp.se>

On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, dpreed@reed.com wrote:
>
>> What happens if the SoC ports aren't saturated, but the link is GigE? That 
>> is, suppose this is an access link to a GigE home or office LAN with wired 
>> servers?
>
> As far as I can tell, the device looks like this:
>
> wifi2------
> wifi1----\|
> 	SOC2 6-|
> 	SOC1 5-|
> 	WAN  4-|
> 	LAN1 3-| (switch)
> 	LAN2 2-|
> 	LAN3 1-|
> 	LAN4 0-|
>
> LAN1-4 and SOC2 is in one vlan, and SOC1 and WAN is in a second vlan. This 
> basically means there is no way to get traffic into SOC1 that goes out SOC2 
> that will saturate either port, because they're both gige. Only way to 
> saturate the SOC port would be if the SOC itself "created" traffic, for 
> instance by being a fileserver, or if there is significant traffic on the 
> wifi (which has PCI-E connectivity).
>
> So it's impossible to congest SOC1 or SOC2 (egress) by running traffic 
> LAN<->WAN alone.

not true, the switch doesn't give any way for traffic to get from one vlan to 
the other one, so if you have gig-e connections on both sides, the traffic going 
from one to the other will have to go through the soc, so if there is more than 
1Gb of traffic in either direction the interface will be saturated.

The problem is if you have a slower connection, the bottleneck is in the switch 
not the soc. you may be able to set the soc-switch interface to 100Mb (make sure 
you have access through another interface in case you cut yourself off) and that 
would make the soc see the queue directly.

David Lang

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-01  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-19 14:44 [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 16:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-19 17:35   ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 20:12     ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:40       ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 20:51         ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:57           ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:57           ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 21:06             ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 21:24               ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 21:52                 ` Luis E. Garcia
2015-06-19 23:32                   ` Dave Taht
2015-06-20  5:52                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23  2:41                 ` Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23  7:20                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 12:55                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:09                       ` Dave Taht
2015-06-23 17:25                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 18:15                         ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-24  5:21                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24  5:19                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 11:31                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 16:32                           ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25  1:53                             ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25  3:07                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25  3:32                                 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25  9:12                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 10:26                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 20:13                               ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:16                                 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:24                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-25 22:14                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26  6:58                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26  7:12                                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26  9:46                           ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 12:26                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 14:17                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 14:49                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:18                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-26 16:31                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:35                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-26 17:04                                       ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:24                                         ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:38                                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 18:58                                             ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 18:59                                               ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 19:11                                                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 19:13                                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27  5:03                                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27  5:18                                                 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27  5:50                                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27 17:59                                                     ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 18:23                                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-27 18:52                                                         ` Dave Taht
2015-06-27 23:13                                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28  7:06                                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28  8:23                                                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 10:29                                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 17:04                                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 17:32                                                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 17:58                                                             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-28 18:04                                                               ` Dave Taht
2015-06-28 18:55                                                                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 19:17                                                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 19:24                                                                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-28 20:48                                                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 21:23                                                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  4:58                                                                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  5:11                                                                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  7:46                                                                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  7:54                                                                                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  7:56                                                                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  8:10                                                                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  8:17                                                                                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  8:24                                                                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  7:44                                                                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  8:09                                                                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  8:34                                                                                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  8:42                                                                                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29  9:12                                                                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 10:09                                                                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-29 13:00                                                                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 13:34                                                                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 13:46                                                                                           ` dpreed
2015-06-29 16:45                                                                                             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-30 13:58                                                                                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 16:20                                                                                               ` dpreed
2015-06-30 19:58                                                                                                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01  8:23                                                                                                   ` David Lang [this message]
2015-07-01 10:32                                                                                                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 11:55                                                                                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-01 15:37                                                                                                   ` dpreed
2015-06-29 13:42                                                                                         ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 16:44                                                                                           ` Dave Taht
2015-06-29 18:24                                                                                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 22:15                                                                                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 22:49                                                                                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30  8:00                                                                                             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30  9:40                                                                                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:33                                                                                                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:39                                                                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 15:43                                                                                                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:47                                                                                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 16:06                                                                                                         ` dpreed
2015-07-02 19:12                                                                                                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-07  1:07                                                                                                           ` David Lang
2015-07-02 16:09                                                                                                         ` Rich Brown
2015-07-02 16:12                                                                                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-03 11:38                                                                                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29  6:12                                                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 18:48                                                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:34                                   ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 16:27                                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:36                                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:43                                     ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 17:01                                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:35                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 14:40                       ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:37     ` Sebastian Moeller

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