Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still?

[Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, dpreed@deepplum.com wrote:

> Why not now?

Problem I am seeing is that there aren't enough abstraction frameworks, 
and creating these might take years. I saw Linus argued against ARM 
developers who kept coming with their SoC-unique patch-sets, and told them 
to go home and come back with something more generic. This actually 
happened.

We have *not* seen this for packet accelerators for instance. I have 
advocated Linux Foundation to do this, they know the issue, it's something 
we all want to fix, but it needs customers to push OEMs to push SoC 
vendors to do this. It's a classical "everybody benefits in the long run, 
but short term there is no immediate benefit" kind of thing.

Your example of PCI is classic, I see lots of Open* innitiatives but 
they're typically quasi-open, the source is open, but the work is done 
behind closed doors and code is thrown over the fence.

To me it's amazing that Linux kernel has gotten as far as it has, and 
actually has a so-so working community around it, with lots of companies 
funding work going in there. Things could be a lot worse.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se