From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:34:18 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1902041132530.23912@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4iU-yDmPqHe6ByFmFVy3YjUBUtFGz5+JqH29=zQ4OBsQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote:
>> The problem with CAKE/FQ and background traffic is that it can't tell if
>> there is congestion or not, and things like LEDBAT can't backoff and try
>> to avoid causing congestion. So your previous email about allowing some
>> congestion to take place on LE would be good as then protocols that try to
>> avoid causing congestion would have a way to do so.
>
> I do not like that the standard allows for total starvation. I would
> prefer it had a minimum of 5%.
I fully agree, and that would work even if all LE traffic was put into
single queue with 5% of total bw, and even if that had a 1 second FIFO
with tail drop.
--
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-04 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-03 18:39 [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2019-02-03 20:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-02-03 22:42 ` David P. Reed
2019-02-04 0:17 ` Dave Taht
2019-02-04 1:12 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " Jonathan Morton
2019-02-04 6:02 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-02-04 6:58 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " Dave Taht
2019-02-04 7:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-02-04 10:23 ` Dave Taht
2019-02-04 10:34 ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2019-02-04 10:40 ` Dave Taht
2019-08-21 15:07 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2019-08-21 16:38 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-08-21 16:52 ` Dave Taht
2019-08-22 6:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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