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* [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
@ 2014-11-15 19:45 James Cloos
  2014-11-15 20:09 ` Dave Taht
  2014-11-17 21:41 ` William Katsak
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-15 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cerowrt-devel

I bought a 3800 many months ago, but ran openwrt on it because I didn't
want to renumber my wired net.

I finally was able to aquire a box to use as my edge router, and
switched the 3800 to cero for the wireless clients.  Everything on
the edge box is compiled locally.

I have a route on the edge pointing 172.16.0.0/12 to the 3800, and plan
on the it doing all of the NAT.  The 3800 will just need to push packets.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to optimize the edge
routing in such a scenerio?

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-15 19:45 [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero James Cloos
@ 2014-11-15 20:09 ` Dave Taht
  2014-11-15 20:15   ` Dave Taht
  2014-11-17 21:41 ` William Katsak
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-11-15 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_an_interior_gateway_router

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
> I bought a 3800 many months ago, but ran openwrt on it because I didn't
> want to renumber my wired net.
>
> I finally was able to aquire a box to use as my edge router, and
> switched the 3800 to cero for the wireless clients.  Everything on
> the edge box is compiled locally.
>
> I have a route on the edge pointing 172.16.0.0/12 to the 3800, and plan
> on the it doing all of the NAT.  The 3800 will just need to push packets.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to optimize the edge
> routing in such a scenerio?
>
> -JimC
> --
> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
> _______________________________________________
> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel



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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-15 20:09 ` Dave Taht
@ 2014-11-15 20:15   ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-11-15 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

These instructions assume a box running babels on the other side. As
you are using static routing on the main box, you can use static
routing on the cerowrt box also and not disable via the "defaultroute
0" line.

On the other hand, I like routing protocols, so if you want you can
merely add babels (the source specific version) to the main gateway
and configure it to export it's routes.

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/homenet/current/msg02814.html

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_an_interior_gateway_router
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
>> I bought a 3800 many months ago, but ran openwrt on it because I didn't
>> want to renumber my wired net.
>>
>> I finally was able to aquire a box to use as my edge router, and
>> switched the 3800 to cero for the wireless clients.  Everything on
>> the edge box is compiled locally.
>>
>> I have a route on the edge pointing 172.16.0.0/12 to the 3800, and plan
>> on the it doing all of the NAT.  The 3800 will just need to push packets.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to optimize the edge
>> routing in such a scenerio?
>>
>> -JimC
>> --
>> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
>> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks



-- 
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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-15 19:45 [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero James Cloos
  2014-11-15 20:09 ` Dave Taht
@ 2014-11-17 21:41 ` William Katsak
  2014-11-18 15:38   ` James Cloos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: William Katsak @ 2014-11-17 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

Just curious, what are you running on the edge router box? I really want to move to this topology, as I have 101 mbps down and my 3800 can’t hack it with shaping on Cero. I just had the good fortune to pick up a couple of D525 Atom boxes with dual Intel gigabit NICs, so I want to experiment. I was thinking of trying out pfSense on one as well as compiling either CeroWrt or regular OpenWrt on another, so just curious what you decided to do.

Thanks,
Bill


> On Nov 15, 2014, at 2:45 PM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
> 
> I bought a 3800 many months ago, but ran openwrt on it because I didn't
> want to renumber my wired net.
> 
> I finally was able to aquire a box to use as my edge router, and
> switched the 3800 to cero for the wireless clients.  Everything on
> the edge box is compiled locally.
> 
> I have a route on the edge pointing 172.16.0.0/12 to the 3800, and plan
> on the it doing all of the NAT.  The 3800 will just need to push packets.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to optimize the edge
> routing in such a scenerio?
> 
> -JimC
> -- 
> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
> _______________________________________________
> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel


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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-17 21:41 ` William Katsak
@ 2014-11-18 15:38   ` James Cloos
  2014-11-18 16:07     ` William Katsak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-18 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Katsak; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

>>>>> "WK" == William Katsak <wkatsak@gmail.com> writes:

WK> Just curious, what are you running on the edge router box?

After considering a number of options, I ended up with Gentoo.

I use it on my workstation, will be running more than just routing
on it and for some packages I prefer more recent versions.

Even with asterisk running it still is using less than half of its ram.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-18 15:38   ` James Cloos
@ 2014-11-18 16:07     ` William Katsak
  2014-11-18 16:37       ` James Cloos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: William Katsak @ 2014-11-18 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

Are you doing the NAT, etc. for the ethernet on the edge box and just 
using the 3800 for wifi, or is the edge box doing *only* shaping and 
letting the 3800 do the rest?

-Bill

On 11/18/2014 10:38 AM, James Cloos wrote:
>>>>>> "WK" == William Katsak <wkatsak@gmail.com> writes:
>
> WK> Just curious, what are you running on the edge router box?
>
> After considering a number of options, I ended up with Gentoo.
>
> I use it on my workstation, will be running more than just routing
> on it and for some packages I prefer more recent versions.
>
> Even with asterisk running it still is using less than half of its ram.
>
> -JimC
>

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-18 16:07     ` William Katsak
@ 2014-11-18 16:37       ` James Cloos
  2014-11-18 16:45         ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-18 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Katsak; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

>>>>> "WK" == William Katsak <wkatsak@gmail.com> writes:

WK> Are you doing the NAT, etc. for the ethernet on the edge box and just
WK> using the 3800 for wifi, or is the edge box doing *only* shaping and
WK> letting the 3800 do the rest?

The edge does nat, and I was asking for tips on shaping and the like.

The 3800 handles wireless and (non-nat) routing between the wireless
netblocks and the netblock I use for the wired lan.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-18 16:37       ` James Cloos
@ 2014-11-18 16:45         ` Dave Taht
  2014-11-18 18:04           ` James Cloos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-11-18 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

sqm-scripts runs just fine on debian/ubuntu, at least. You do need to
modprobe rather than insmod the modules, and it could really use a
wrapper for debian/redhat/etc et. al. to come up on any given
interface automagically.

Since you are running gentoo, and thus building your own kernels I
happen to have this nifty new code from jonathon morton that might be
better than the sqm scripts if you want to try it.....

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "WK" == William Katsak <wkatsak@gmail.com> writes:
>
> WK> Are you doing the NAT, etc. for the ethernet on the edge box and just
> WK> using the 3800 for wifi, or is the edge box doing *only* shaping and
> WK> letting the 3800 do the rest?
>
> The edge does nat, and I was asking for tips on shaping and the like.
>
> The 3800 handles wireless and (non-nat) routing between the wireless
> netblocks and the netblock I use for the wired lan.
>
> -JimC
> --
> James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
> _______________________________________________
> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel



-- 
Dave Täht

thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] switching to cero
  2014-11-18 16:45         ` Dave Taht
@ 2014-11-18 18:04           ` James Cloos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2014-11-18 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

>>>>> "DT" == Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

DT> Since you are running gentoo, and thus building your own kernels I
DT> happen to have this nifty new code from jonathon morton that might be
DT> better than the sqm scripts if you want to try it.....

Yes, I am interested in trying that code.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

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