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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com>
Cc: dickroy@alum.mit.edu, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>,
	starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	 codel <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon may need to start a go-fund-me page!
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:44:46 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2108101343040.810590@qynat-yncgbc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACw=56K_Sj24FAO17cY4vDYhe1-gAXW_fQKLSBKSMqSE0kCRmA@mail.gmail.com>

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the biggest problem starlink faces is shipping enough devices (and launching the 
satellites to support them), not demand. There are enough people interested in 
paying full price that if the broadband subsities did not exist, it wouldn't 
reduce the demand noticably.

but if the feds are handing out money, SpaceX is foolish not to apply for it.

David Lang

On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Jeremy Austin wrote:

> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:33:11 -0800
> From: Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com>
> To: dickroy@alum.mit.edu
> Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net,
>     codel <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
>     bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon
>      may need to start a go-fund-me page!
> 
> A 5.7% reduction in funded locations for StarLink is… not dramatic. If the
> project falls on that basis, they've got bigger problems. Much of that
> discrepancy falls squarely on the shoulders of the FCC and incumbent ISPs
> filing form 477, as well as the RDOF auction being held before improving
> mapping — as Rosenworcel pointed out. The state of broadband mapping is
> still dire.
>
> If I felt like the reallocation of funds would be 100% guaranteed to
> benefit the end Internet user… I'd cheer too.
>
> If.
>
> JHA
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:16 PM Dick Roy <dickroy@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> You may find this of some relevance!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/07/ajit-pai-apparently-mismanaged-9-billion-fund-new-fcc-boss-starts-cleanup/
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers (or whatever!),
>>
>>
>>
>> RR
>>
>>
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-01  0:12 [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board Dave Taht
2021-07-02  1:16 ` David P. Reed
2021-07-02  4:04   ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-02 16:11     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy
2021-07-02 17:07   ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2021-07-02 23:28     ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-06 13:46       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Ben Greear
2021-07-06 20:43         ` [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-06 21:24           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Ben Greear
2021-07-06 22:05             ` [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-07 13:34               ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Ben Greear
2021-07-07 19:19                 ` [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-08 19:38         ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " David P. Reed
2021-07-08 22:51           ` [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-07-09  3:08           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Leonard Kleinrock
2021-07-09 10:05             ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Luca Muscariello
2021-07-09 19:31               ` [Cerowrt-devel] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point David P. Reed
2021-07-09 20:24                 ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-09 22:57                 ` [Bloat] " Holland, Jake
2021-07-09 23:37                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-07-09 23:01                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Leonard Kleinrock
2021-07-09 23:56                   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
2021-07-17 23:56                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Aaron Wood
2021-07-10 19:51                   ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-10 23:24                     ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 13:46                 ` [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2021-07-12 17:40                   ` [Cerowrt-devel] " David P. Reed
2021-07-12 18:21                     ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 18:38                       ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 19:07                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Ben Greear
2021-07-12 20:04                         ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 20:32                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Ben Greear
2021-07-12 20:36                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " David Lang
2021-07-12 20:50                               ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 20:42                             ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-13  7:14                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Amr Rizk
2021-07-13 17:07                               ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-13 17:49                                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " David P. Reed
2021-07-14 18:37                                   ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-15  1:27                                     ` Holland, Jake
2021-07-16  0:34                                       ` Bob McMahon
     [not found]                                   ` <A5E35F34-A4D5-45B1-8E2D-E2F6DE988A1E@cs.ucla.edu>
2021-07-22 16:30                                     ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-13 17:22                               ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-17 23:29                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Aaron Wood
2021-07-18 19:06                               ` Bob McMahon
2021-07-12 21:54                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2021-09-20  1:21                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2021-09-20  4:00                   ` Valdis Klētnieks
2021-09-20  4:09                     ` David Lang
2021-09-20 21:30                       ` David P. Reed
2021-09-20 21:44                         ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " David P. Reed
2021-09-20 12:57                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] " Steve Crocker
2021-09-20 16:36                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] " John Sager
2021-09-21  2:40                       ` [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Vint Cerf
2021-09-23 17:46                         ` Bob McMahon
2021-09-26 18:24                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] " David P. Reed
2021-10-22  0:51                             ` TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency Bob McMahon
2021-10-26  3:11                               ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Stuart Cheshire
2021-10-26  4:24                                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2021-10-26 18:45                                   ` Christoph Paasch
2021-10-26 23:23                                     ` Bob McMahon
2021-10-26 23:38                                       ` Christoph Paasch
2021-10-27  1:12                                         ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2021-10-27  3:45                                           ` Bob McMahon
2021-10-27  5:40                                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Eric Dumazet
2021-10-28 16:04                                             ` Christoph Paasch
2021-10-29 21:16                                               ` Bob McMahon
2021-10-26  5:32                                 ` Bob McMahon
2021-10-26 10:04                                   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] " Bjørn Ivar Teigen
2021-10-26 17:23                                     ` Bob McMahon
2021-10-27 14:29                                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-02 22:59               ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board Bob McMahon
2021-08-02 23:16                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " David Lang
2021-08-02 23:50                   ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-03  3:06                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " David Lang
2021-08-02 23:55                   ` Ben Greear
2021-08-03  0:01                     ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-03  3:12                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " David Lang
2021-08-03  3:23                         ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-03  4:30                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " David Lang
2021-08-03  4:38                             ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-03  4:44                               ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " David Lang
2021-08-03 16:01                                 ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-08  4:35                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy
2021-08-08  5:04                               ` [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-08  5:04                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy
2021-08-08  5:07                             ` [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-10 14:10                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Rodney W. Grimes
2021-08-10 16:13                             ` Dick Roy
2021-08-10 17:06                               ` [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-10 17:56                                 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy
2021-08-10 18:11                                 ` Dick Roy
2021-08-10 19:21                                   ` [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-10 20:16                                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon may need to start a go-fund-me page! Dick Roy
2021-08-10 20:33                                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] " Jeremy Austin
2021-08-10 20:44                                         ` David Lang [this message]
2021-08-10 22:54                                           ` Bob McMahon
2021-09-02 17:36                                   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board David P. Reed
2021-09-03 14:35                                     ` [Bloat] [Cake] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Matt Mathis
2021-09-03 18:33                                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " David P. Reed
2021-08-03  0:37                   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Leonard Kleinrock
2021-08-03  1:24                     ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-08  5:07                       ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy
2021-08-08  5:15                         ` [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-08 18:36                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] " Aaron Wood
2021-08-08 18:48                             ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
2021-08-08 19:58                               ` [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] " Bob McMahon
2021-08-08  4:20                     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] " Dick Roy

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