From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0151200B49; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyx43 with SMTP id x43so6843872wey.16 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:57:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8x04FHHtsOfEkDQx/LAwgaa7lcdRiETnQMNfkuW19QE=; b=kGq1g21cH1gScd4GoCUYiPxjkE9hYNyAFdes+4UYf5VAwTdeKtTCoZMdMHBXRKEQ2N bZf8Hw9n6Mg99b0G2xApm7Lbo4ksb1D1j0GhxsIFMkOxmOTTUn5kAWxuq1Rfia6p5Ee+ tiyeMfNOGpNIDCTi2k6ePQL9GBEsBqIM1fgxWD+wBxl/hFEZD8IRcWU4gTptZ6HkkhI8 QFAsChGESoB8G7WhLA9RZ1dwAVxrcftq7sFrlWFW9/eHi2CZhuKelvB6wd0Eesa9UDLw zvzjMmpdwC/eYM5D/V/TXq+8Tc6PtlH/5wa0C35QPqCJ0HdFxAxXog0bjd0JJ4VWl5Du j5Fg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.71.82 with SMTP id q60mr4826395wed.64.1345312660853; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.143.69 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <502F72D2.1080704@googlemail.com> References: <502F72D2.1080704@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Oliver Niesner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-users] Cerowrt_question X-BeenThere: cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Support for user problems regarding cerowrt List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:57:43 -0000 Wow. I think this is the first post ever to cerowrt-users. I note cerowrt-devel is where most of the action is, and I'd advise posting over there (for now). On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Oliver Niesner wrote: > Hi, all! > > I am new to all this stuff but as a networking enthusiast, i want to lear= n > ;-) > I installed cerowrt on my brand new wndr-3800 and it runs fine. > I changed the radios to my country (germany) as suggested and then i > connected to the wlan > with my notebook (qos in cerowrt enabled). After running netalyzr the > buffersizes in ms are much better. > But at this point i have some problems with understanding: I run the cero= wrt > as a second router in my > normal network, so the gateway to the internet is my "normal" router with > all the problems with buffers we all have. How could it be that the > buffersizes are so much better even when i connected with my > standard router?? The point here is that by setting qos on and doing rate limiting you've moved the core bottleneck from the gateway device or other main router to cero, which can then manage the problem. (but only for devices that are behind it. And, yes, if you have competing traffic on the main router, it will mess up qos) I generally advise people to FIRST make sure their environment still works - like printing, samba, dlna, and other services - before making a version of cerowrt into their main router. Particularly if they have spouses/kids/work dependent on the network always working. and then certain releases of cerowrt can certainly be used (after that testing) as your main router (-17 is looking good, but there is a patch outstanding on the cerowrt-devel mailing list for openwrt's qos to lower it's buffering somewhat). See the archives for details. https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2012-August/000394.ht= ml but if your intent is to help fix the internet, please! do follow along with our development of cero by using it as a secondary router, too.... > If someone could explain me a bit more, it would be very > nice. I also want support > this project as best as i can. The wiki always needs love, in particular. > If i can provide any useful info/data, please > let me know. I certainly have > a ton of questions in the next weeks, hope there are not too much noob on= es > :-) Noob questions welcomed, the effort of writing emails in explanation generally results in stuff getting wikied... > Thanks, > > Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-users mailing list > Cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-users --=20 Dave T=E4ht http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki - "3.3.8-17 is out with fq_codel!"