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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
Cc: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>,
	starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Leonard Kleinrock <lk@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	codel <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	dickroy@alum.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 21:48:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0068DE73-1877-4879-B250-97586B545372@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALQXh-Oukro8cvM-tEfowdiBXJuMff8MfuvQ9qsChbaORnWWpg@mail.gmail.com>

> On 8 Aug, 2021, at 9:36 pm, Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Less common, but something I still see, is that a moving station has continual issues staying in proper MIMO phase(s) with the AP.  Or I think that's what's happening.  Slow, continual movement of the two, relative to each other, and the packet rate drops through the floor until they stop having relative motion.  And I assume that also applies to time-varying path-loss and path-distance (multipath reflections).

So is it time to mount test stations on model railway wagons?

 - Jonathan Morton

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-08 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-01  0:12 [Codel] " Dave Taht
     [not found] ` <1625188609.32718319@apps.rackspace.com>
2021-07-02 17:07   ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
     [not found]     ` <CAHb6LvrjgKnfe_jaGgx7_B1VDTkZfTmP0OyTmxL9ojWoxogrsA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-06 13:46       ` [Codel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Ben Greear
     [not found]         ` <CAHb6LvqSkcGZBZ+iHY-g0vSunqe1sFHmvoFXGjWSoYvtwHeHaA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-06 21:24           ` Ben Greear
     [not found]             ` <CAHb6LvodW0WNeHAfRHLB6NhDT6+maWVnoR14+setpzCWnwiPTQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-07 13:34               ` Ben Greear
     [not found]         ` <1625773080.94974089@apps.rackspace.com>
     [not found]           ` <FDF5C7A7-47A6-4123-A948-352C07C35F02@cs.ucla.edu>
2021-07-09 10:05             ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Luca Muscariello
     [not found]               ` <CAHb6LvqsZFDDkC1qjr9ccXNjFtq1qnAevQpccNFydP4BOVVL1Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-02 23:16                 ` [Codel] [Cake] " David Lang
2021-08-02 23:55                   ` Ben Greear
     [not found]                     ` <CAHb6Lvp851pVCt+zUv1PZgpHafCG4RPXEwMn6=CJFXhVf9fK8w@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-03  3:12                       ` David Lang
     [not found]                         ` <CAHb6LvqfRxKU0BW04ypRcPDpCcWymnS6qzb3gneQSbBrAbRhHQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-03  4:30                           ` David Lang
     [not found]                             ` <CAHb6LvpcawqCvgt5MmhXADYG=oaY5rbdaC=7ETwOVzpHXak2kQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-03  4:44                               ` David Lang
     [not found]                           ` <202108101410.17AEAR4w075939@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
     [not found]                             ` <5AF5551E2A7041168E7071FDA0F6B8EC@SRA6>
     [not found]                               ` <CAHb6LvpAmUKgsMAoZGrbAvS01DF=yWyJj56ox+FrDM_tEc=0Ng@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <03CA2CDA3EC5415DA229F835BE039994@SRA6>
     [not found]                                   ` <CAHb6LvoiVZq91m-C3iJFC95fYLPHCY3zQo6O0XTUDAJquu5KbQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <92A399A23FEE4C52ADFC1734E6840756@SRA6>
     [not found]                                       ` <CACw=56K_Sj24FAO17cY4vDYhe1-gAXW_fQKLSBKSMqSE0kCRmA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-10 20:44                                         ` [Codel] [Starlink] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon may need to start a go-fund-me page! David Lang
     [not found]                   ` <CAHb6LvpK48u+8coP1pWJVjva_jYaQa-bGuArAGnf8ku-=xoSBw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-03  3:06                     ` [Codel] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board David Lang
     [not found]                   ` <8677F5C4-1893-4A61-A13C-3C8BE17CB789@cs.ucla.edu>
     [not found]                     ` <CAHb6LvpQP_jCiHeNJAD9qt+wB-HqUAW7N6aGJ+6-PXg+KE5Z2Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <4F6EFB347C08475A9F53B24E0D8BEAE2@SRA6>
     [not found]                         ` <CAHb6LvqUctN5SMcqgZNh5u7=nJhtWOuXEmh59PPYag2g+xVrtw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-08-08 18:36                           ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] " Aaron Wood
2021-08-08 18:48                             ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
     [not found]               ` <1625859083.09751240@apps.rackspace.com>
     [not found]                 ` <BCD9F979-341F-4292-9D11-FAE91FC3967E@akamai.com>
2021-07-09 23:37                   ` [Codel] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]                 ` <8C38E940-8B97-4767-A39B-25F043AE0856@cs.ucla.edu>
2021-07-09 23:56                   ` Jonathan Morton
2021-07-17 23:56                     ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Aaron Wood
     [not found]                 ` <EF8D7620-438A-4F65-94D9-B35FDB76FBBD@cable.comcast.com>
     [not found]                   ` <1626111630.69692379@apps.rackspace.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CAHb6LvoD+ACc+17WhTVmS8HYnYyboJrCg5zQF8uXtzrmqqKfPA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-12 19:07                       ` [Codel] " Ben Greear
     [not found]                         ` <CAHb6LvpyQtGg3sMF2RV_gMpEcaY32A70VaEwtsnoeq4DHtv7EA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-12 20:32                           ` Ben Greear
2021-07-12 20:36                             ` [Codel] [Cake] " David Lang
2021-07-17 23:29                             ` [Codel] " Aaron Wood
2021-07-12 21:54                           ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2021-09-20  1:21                 ` [Codel] " Dave Taht
     [not found]                   ` <257851.1632110422@turing-police>
2021-09-20  4:09                     ` [Codel] [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " David Lang
     [not found]                     ` <CABf5zv+yq_oJ7O7YqVeSbZ2Qns3C4hESzNA2V0zNb0L1Zg-mgw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <CAHxHggd-4rZ5Nc4raaoRUjjL17MVh8UsNu_5eL8eiLJ=R_68wA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <CAHb6Lvp86iw=DQMN8Z+f7yUJu-5pmVUxsM1_1Jw8RJb2XRcMcg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <1632680642.869711321@apps.rackspace.com>
     [not found]                             ` <CAHb6Lvp1dxnbuCNiE5FKC-yRyD6HGkb0H1ZQAm_nSxANwJg2pA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                               ` <E3373586-EF4C-40DF-885B-0D6134E6EAF1@apple.com>
2021-10-26  4:24                                 ` [Codel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                 ` <CAHb6Lvomc+2y++qOm9v3OzYCdmWDUEROJb+unybj0Mir0faXQQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <CAKf5G6JpeaxRkbwhuNE5zUb7tX3H4eo0HOuX+C0DCSrcg4Byhg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <CAHb6LvpUBKFGUTnuafGxQAJBfNEO=zS20SvxTJ88e6VJAP54=g@mail.gmail.com>
2021-10-27 14:29                                       ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller

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