On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:25 -0400, Justin McCann wrote: > Can't they turn on Early Packet Discard or something similar? This > seems like a no-brainer. This is British Telecom we're talking about. No, we cannot expect them to do *anything* even half sane. The ISP has clue, and the PPP session handled by BT's DSLAM is terminated in an L2TP session on their LNS. For the foreseeable future, that is where any queue management has to happen. -- dwmw2