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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat]   Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:53:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1337190793.8512.1221.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB3E677.7090304@hp.com>

On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 10:40 -0700, Rick Jones wrote:

> 
> I like netperf as much as anyone :)  but keep in mind that the TCP_RR 
> test has only one segment outstanding at a time only when the 
> request/response size is < MSS and/or one has not enabled burst mode to 
> have multiple transactions in flight at one time.
> 
> Are we really likely to see a situation where all the flows are one 
> packet at a time?   If all the flows are either that way naturally, or 
> have gotten there thanks to a one segment cwnd are we not already in a 
> very pathological situation?
> 
> For the impossible to define "fair" question, is it fair to drop a 
> flow's only packet if there are other, multiple-packet flows around?

Please take a look at the patch I sent some hours ago.

In fact the real problem was that thin flows were bypassing codel algo
because we considered the flow backlog (one packet) and decided to _not_
drop packet regardless of its sojourn_time.

With the fix, there is no more problem : fq_codel downgrades to a codel
qdisc in case of a DDOS.




  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  1:04 [Codel] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-09  2:02 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Kevin Gross
2012-05-09  3:13 ` [Codel] " Kathleen Nichols
2012-05-09  3:56   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  5:16 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2012-05-09  5:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09  5:41     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  7:32       ` [Codel] [codel] some numbers on dual 10Gb links Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 13:04   ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Kevin Gross
2012-05-16  5:55     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  6:09       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:05         ` [Codel] Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq dave taht
2012-05-16  7:20           ` Dave Taht
2012-05-16  7:42             ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:02                 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:14                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:31                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:37                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:59                         ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 10:10                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 13:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:40               ` Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:53                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-05-16 17:33             ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:48               ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  6:09       ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-16  6:31         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:15           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-09 19:10   ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-05-09 19:15     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 19:28       ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:02     ` Simon Barber
2012-05-09 20:06   ` Fred Baker
2012-05-09 21:47     ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-09 23:58       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-10  2:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  2:37   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-10  6:35     ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10  6:54       ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  7:02         ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 14:25           ` Justin McCann
2012-05-10 14:42             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 15:34               ` Neil Davies
2012-05-10 21:20               ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-14  7:27           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-14  7:34             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 13:55             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-18 20:56               ` [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems Jonathan Morton
2012-05-18 21:36                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-18 22:34                   ` Dave Taht

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