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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Dave Täht" <dave.taht@bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [RFCv2 PATCH] codel: add ecn_target for when to drop rather than mark ecn packets
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:51:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1340650278.10893.93.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6s16EQbQSGFvBj9aJhgqW9FqLfL=b0hokNkum_TKfaVw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 11:25 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My impression is that ECN ignorant flows do exist, because of stupid routers rather than malice, and that Dave considers this a problem worth tackling in codel.
> 
> Malice will exist. It is easy to create a set of flows that will
> overwhelm either codel or fq_codel, with ecn enabled.

Then don't enable ecn. Simple.

Don't try to solve ecn problems at Qdisc layer, its not going to work.

fq_codel is default ecn enabled, because you can overwhelm fq_codel with
or without ecn anyway.




  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-25 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-25  5:00 [Codel] [RFCv2 PATCH] iproute2: Add ecn_target option to codel and fq_codel Dave Täht
2012-06-25  5:00 ` [Codel] [RFCv2 PATCH] codel: add ecn_target for when to drop rather than mark ecn packets Dave Täht
2012-06-25  5:22   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-25 14:50     ` Dave Taht
2012-06-25 15:20       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-25 15:30         ` Dave Taht
2012-06-25 15:45           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-25 17:48             ` Jonathan Morton
2012-06-25 18:25               ` Dave Taht
2012-06-25 18:51                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-06-25  5:24 ` [Codel] [RFCv2 PATCH] iproute2: Add ecn_target option to codel and fq_codel Eric Dumazet
2012-06-25  5:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-25 14:54   ` Dave Taht

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