From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] [RFC PATCH] codel: ecn mark at target
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:46:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1344271579.26674.45.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8860AEB6C5DB43649852D9A8B40E9B9F@srichardlxp2>
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 18:22 +0200, Richard Scheffenegger wrote:
> Well, as long as the window is large enough, the delayed ACKs shouldn't
> matter, even if the ECE is delayed for 1 segment; the argument about delayed
> ACKs when cwnd is 1 is also true for non-ECN flows; they would run better
> when every segment is acked individually; but can the receiver tell, if the
> sender is running at cwnd=1?
>
It should just be safe instead than lazy.
Frankly what's the deal to send an ACK right now instead of in 40ms ?
> Perhaps, if it tracks the RTT of the flow (which has to work without TS, as
> they are undefined for pure ACKs), and the number of segments seen during
> one RTT...
Linux does have an heuristic to _not_ use delayed acks for the first
packets received (about 15 MSS), _because_ it assumes sender has a small
cwnd.
When receiving out of order packets, this logic is restarted, because we
want to send SACKS as soon as possible, not after a delayed ack.
Every time we suspect sender has a small cwnd, we enter the quickack
mode.
So when receiving CE segments, we should do the same. Thats a flaw in
current linux code to do nothing and expect more packets to come.
It just works because RTO triggers. A lot of bugs are hidden because of
various timers that take some emergency actions.
tcp_enter_quickack_mode() has all the needed tweaks.
diff --git a/net/ipv4/tcp_input.c b/net/ipv4/tcp_input.c
index 2fd2bc9..2e55337 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/tcp_input.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/tcp_input.c
@@ -237,6 +237,9 @@ static inline void TCP_ECN_check_ce(struct tcp_sock *tp, const struct sk_buff *s
tcp_enter_quickack_mode((struct sock *)tp);
break;
case INET_ECN_CE:
+ /* Better not delay acks, sender can have a very low cwnd */
+ tcp_enter_quickack_mode((struct sock *)tp);
+
tp->ecn_flags |= TCP_ECN_DEMAND_CWR;
/* fallinto */
default:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-06 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-04 2:44 Dave Täht
2012-08-04 6:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-04 21:53 ` Kathleen Nichols
2012-08-05 3:06 ` Andrew McGregor
2012-08-05 5:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-05 16:53 ` Andrew McGregor
2012-08-05 16:58 ` Kathleen Nichols
2012-08-05 17:14 ` Andrew McGregor
2012-08-05 17:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-05 16:54 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2012-08-05 17:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-05 17:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-05 18:14 ` Yuchung Cheng
2012-08-05 18:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-05 19:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-06 16:22 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2012-08-06 16:46 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-08-06 17:50 ` Dave Taht
2012-08-06 19:09 ` Andrew McGregor
2012-08-06 20:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10 17:48 ` Dave Taht
2012-08-04 7:00 ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-08-04 13:38 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2012-08-04 17:21 ` Eric Dumazet
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