From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] fq_codel : interval servo
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:23:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1346628216.2563.70.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4gAUXYHOSHC6A15nEgdm9Fh2tze5PehK1M-qyksYAqGQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 11:08 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 09:59 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
> >
> >> I realize that 10GigE and datacenter host based work is sexy and fun,
> >> but getting stuff that runs well in today's 1-20Mbit environments is
> >> my own priority, going up to 100Mbit, with something that can be
> >> embedded in a SoC. The latest generation of SoCs all do QoS in
> >> hardware... badly.
> >
> > Maybe 'datacenter' word was badly chosen and you obviously jumped on it,
> > because it meant different things for you.
>
> I am hypersensitive about optimizing for sub-ms problems when there are
> huge multi-second problems like in cable, wifi, and cellular. Recent paper:
>
> http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2012/paper/cellnet/p1.pdf
Yes. Take a deep breath, please.
In France, we use to say : "Rome ne s'est pas faite en un jour"
It means you wont solve all your problems at once.
Step by step we improve things, and we discover new issues or
possibilities.
So denying one particular improvement is not good because it doesnt
solve the 'Bufferbloat in the known Universe' is not very helpful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-02 23:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-31 6:55 Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 13:41 ` Jim Gettys
2012-08-31 13:50 ` [Codel] [RFC] fq_codel : interval servo on hosts Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 13:57 ` [Codel] [RFC v2] " Eric Dumazet
2012-09-01 1:37 ` Yuchung Cheng
2012-09-01 12:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-04 15:10 ` Nandita Dukkipati
2012-09-04 15:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-09-04 15:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-04 15:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-04 16:40 ` Dave Taht
2012-09-04 16:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-04 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 15:53 ` [Codel] fq_codel : interval servo Rick Jones
2012-08-31 16:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 16:59 ` Dave Taht
2012-09-01 12:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-02 18:08 ` Dave Taht
2012-09-02 18:17 ` Dave Taht
2012-09-02 23:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-09-02 23:23 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-09-03 0:18 ` Dave Taht
2012-08-31 16:40 ` Jim Gettys
2012-08-31 16:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-08-31 17:15 ` Jim Gettys
2012-08-31 17:31 ` Rick Jones
2012-08-31 17:44 ` Jim Gettys
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