From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D459B200994 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bkty15 with SMTP id y15so4119921bkt.16 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:57:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5ypo8LsFPk7ymKn+3zMyO/JswdrM8aUZjEVBTeymSzY=; b=ZFoSUMytQSZfbIQ0tZgfA+2QCCU2UnTuXQz2JY1nCiVvUzWLa13ZfZsyDHgEqDsvbR JdSY4y6cHPG2sn0zf0XhUP9SwvOLkHUhutlVlVffZOjgAGFLmMjIHFz8ybcIoPDyI+Ge tFJmbZsZcq9BbKQI+IDJAfvt86Die7MuLc2a0mO4Aq+NjACcmXd5JARn0iQnHrfh4C1i 40I+Jm9hu/mpmQQdboD+kRVGAXvIapzbeYY5Uafv1qhFHRm1bRMi3+jps0WQvbM78OVG FWDW0m5/x1j59easVK40QvZHwwlLBheX2z8LMXA0s7+7t3oEJ7OhV0i1kYnqXzFNc/vE Yo/Q== Received: by 10.204.152.19 with SMTP id e19mr8420586bkw.8.1346777854735; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.142.158] ([74.125.121.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hg13sm10984275bkc.7.2012.09.04.09.57.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Dumazet To: Dave Taht In-Reply-To: References: <1346396137.2586.301.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346421031.2591.34.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346421466.2591.38.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346503884.7996.65.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346772855.13121.40.camel@edumazet-glaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 18:57:29 +0200 Message-ID: <1346777849.13121.50.camel@edumazet-glaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tomas Hruby , Nandita Dukkipati , netdev , codel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Codel] [RFC v2] fq_codel : interval servo on hosts X-BeenThere: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: CoDel AQM discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:57:37 -0000 On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 09:40 -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > fq_codel has a standing queue problem, based on the fact that when a > queue empties, codel.h resets. This made sense for the single FIFO > codel but not multi-queued fq_codel. So after we hit X high rate > flows, target can never be achieved, even straining mightily, and we > end up with a standing queue again. > > Easily seen with like 150 bidirectional flows at 10 or 100Mbit. > > (as queues go, it's still pretty good queue. And: I've fiddled with > various means of draining multi-queue behavior thus far, and they > ended up unstable/unfair) No idea of what you mean by "codel.h resets". Please use small mails, one idea by mail.