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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] hardware multiqueue in fq_codel?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:24:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130715162439.0bc86ff2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1373896674.10804.73.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 06:57:54 -0700
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:40 +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
> > Then they should also be smart enough to change their default
> > fq_codel qdisc, to be a prio band based qdisc... shouldn't they ;-)
> > 
> 
> Some companies do this classification at the edge of their network, so
> that they do not have to worry for each machine of their fleet.
>
> Forcing them to learn how to 'fix' things once a new linux version is
> installed would be quite lame. I wont be the guy responsible for this.

Agreed. (And at big companies the network-router-guys and sysadm-guys
are different people/groups, thus harder to coordinate this change. I
was mostly trolling ;-))

 
> Listen, there is no point trying to tell me how fq_codel is better
> than pfifo_fast. Is an apple better than an orange ?
> 
> Instead, we only have to create a clear path.
> 
> 1) Allow the default qdisc to be specified/chosen in Kconfig, a bit
>   like tcp congestion module (cubic is the default)
> 
> 2) Allow the default qdisc to be selected by a /proc/sys entry, like
> TCP congestion module.
> 
> 3) Define the PRIO + codel/band0 + fq_codel/band1 + codel/band2 as a
> new standalone qdisc
> 
> 4) Eventually switch the default Kconfig from pfifo_fast to this
> beast.

Agreed, sounds like a good plan to me, Dave?

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Sr. Network Kernel Developer at Red Hat
  Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-15 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-11 17:09 Dave Taht
2013-07-11 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 18:06   ` Dave Taht
2013-07-11 18:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 21:18       ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12  0:06         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12  0:48           ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12  9:34         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 15:13           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:36             ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-07-12 16:54               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:00                 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 13:40                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-15 13:57                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 14:24                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2013-07-15 15:30                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 17:19                     ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:37             ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:39               ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:50               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:54                 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:19                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:35                     ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:47                       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 18:06                         ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 12:56                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 17:32                   ` luca.muscariello
2013-07-11 19:41     ` Jonathan Morton

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