From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C2A3200B1B for ; Thu, 3 May 2012 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c-24-4-217-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([24.4.217.203] helo=kmn.local) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SQ5Ms-000Dbe-Ua; Thu, 03 May 2012 23:23:27 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 24.4.217.203 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX196wqluouOvz8MCcJH6LJ+vuTi0PMhBnpk= Message-ID: <4FA3136E.3060502@pollere.com> Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 16:23:26 -0700 From: Kathleen Nichols User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codel@bufferbloat.net X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Codel] question about "data center" models X-BeenThere: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: CoDel AQM discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 23:23:28 -0000 So, I thought I'd see what happens with a 1G bottleneck and a 5ms RTT. I'm still checking it out, but I thought I'd try to understand the concern. So, under a constant heavy load, codel will accept a 5ms standing queue. I got the impression this was a concern. I'm not exactly certain why. How much buffer is normally in the bottleneck? If it's enough for a "nominal" RTT of 100 ms, with drop tail it will just fill up and stay there under load. So, 100ms of delay. If it's at a RTT of 5ms, then the buffer will fill up and give 5ms of delay without any ability to absorb bursts. What is the normal configuration? Kathie