From: dave taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.jussieu.fr>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] better tc support for bittorrent/diffserv
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:35:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB1508B.9070300@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7i8vguvcma.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr>
On 05/14/2012 11:30 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
>> I think, but am not certain, jch is referring to the problem of
>> negotiating ecn over uTP.
> No, I was actually unaware that Linux allows one to set the ECN bits
> from userspace.
It's also possible to get them from userspace.
>
> OTOH, you're right that µTP doesn't currently support ECN. Not that it
> matters much, ECN is useful for interactive connections (where it can
> avoid a one-RTT delay due to a packet loss) but pretty useless for bulk
> transfers[1].
My scenario is that AQM isn't just for routers anymore.
>
> On a related note, the µTP framing is pretty horrible IMHO, and LEDBAT
> is better implemented within TCP. Unfortunately, this is not possible
> under Windows (yeah, I got one of the µTorrent guys to contact Microsoft
> on this subject).
>
> On a note related to the related note, Transmission already has the
> ability to make use of a non-default congestion controller for TCP:
>
> http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/bittorrent/tcp-congestion-control.html
TCP_LEDBAT has been in cerowrt for months. Haven't played with it much, was
mostly comparing westwood and cubic.
http://perso.telecom-paristech.fr/~valenti/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.LEDBAT
Also have the ability to exercise alternate algorithms in the latest
netperf in svn
(as well as classification).
> -- Juliusz
>
> [1] Marek Malowidzki, Simulation-based Study of ECN Performance in RED
> Networks, In Proc. SPECTS'03. 2003.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-14 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-14 15:51 [Codel] " dave taht
2012-05-14 17:50 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Juliusz Chroboczek
2012-05-14 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 18:18 ` dave taht
2012-05-14 18:30 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2012-05-14 18:35 ` dave taht [this message]
2012-05-14 18:24 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2012-05-14 18:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 18:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 18:14 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-14 18:31 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
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