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* [Codel] Sidebar to TCP Small Queues - cooperative bandwidth shaping
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@ 2012-07-11 18:11 ` David Collier-Brown
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From: David Collier-Brown @ 2012-07-11 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 07/11/2012 12:17 PM, codel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net -> Ben
Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote
> On 07/11/2012 08:11 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:13 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> This introduce TSQ (TCP Small Queues)
...
> 
> I haven't read your patch in detail, but I was wondering if this feature
> would cause trouble for applications that are servicing many sockets at once
> and so might take several ms between handling each individual socket.
> 
> Or, applications that for other reasons cannot service sockets quite
> as fast.  Without this feature, they could poke more data into the
> xmit queues to be handled by the kernel while the app goes about it's
> other user-space work?
> 
> Maybe this feature could be enabled/tuned on a per-socket basis?
> 

I speculate[1] that sharing of resources between applications, or
sockets within applications, can better be done as a separate action, by
using either a purely local mechanism like cgroups, or by a mechanism
that can use a global service-information daemon like the oldish
"trickle" bandwidth manager (still available on Fedora via "yum install
trickle")

Strictly speaking, only the trickled component would be needed, and
could conveniently reside on a router, while the the trickle shared
library could be used initially, and retired in favour of the proper
local control mechanism.


--dave
[1. Polite Canadian for "I'm pretty sure"]
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