From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7287E3B2B0 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.136.89.201] ([95.91.196.215]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LkfdE-1boPvQ06Ym-00aVxl; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:15:36 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: moeller0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:15:34 +0200 Cc: Greg White , "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5A8FD2FC-0CCA-49AA-9976-C232DA265642@gmx.de> References: <18D7F26F-B533-405A-9ED4-8ED0F4B2E5CF@caltech.edu> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FtX/kd/UiCVuTe6irow9iLWqdOCWmq5SwbEKJjOE06KF+5ByRLc gp5ODzZnG0xiZa1ooOH8vrzwAO/fjDY2yfkKLMw53Sig/MlafxiLgd7gjEWf3a4p0grWHho MefJ4JGo72HZrHiSYQTqHpdr2nqMme8r5Pha3LqZ1/Ur/b/sxc349lJfVyPA0eYW1liivei TcmO8KoqQE8mOMrKhs+sA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:WqYoU2p25Ko=:y4XGEuMFQm2zsgzszIKlbQ Q11dIOVPSd89Y1ZT97NNLZWIA4jTuDXv7v/LYG2AbB00I7w3tfbYJXWp344sDRaN2FI+j62Rm 5EwTcX5nAFERKtDRaNPfepdyKYRTiFgKsh5CNxGsEgdzzHfbcAEmb2vJyZcoaMS44sOuzf5Uu EfPx/WYsHKCtDdsc8wJhDn4WYFMLtRqHBRaeg4ldhVDpDNnEvAliaEd2fOU0RlaaH/wnVLbop zaqZXm1wPtTnlEbOaaxMHkno2uaYPQDUFNKnrWv/1qbV+irhqjaPztth24ialwkRnUz11XblB 2p978+InpMkjHnzsKGAMq69pDAciaYMQoqRPKU/50fnAKs4OWBb+6mYLTa3UWSRsYoJP4D+AV npAcM4Q5xl2s0yPo4LLODy8bk8GBbIdfsAP7mh2OfJM9xCWm6OYw8yvVhcGHjRCZ96ys0I58v 3sPJ2Qs3n/bpqEEscYAZP9QIBjREPpxUVyGOaaOYGtvT8HvjzR39u2g2Vda2kw4C75QgIUqUq X8rI7SpVoNbGMZdIEJB90PmOjEHM/1NeSV1GLFgeWh905/5phWAgNxPQUSIltT3ZPjctx/dP1 IrXB9S2ysXImj0dL3zaAaFcnsPZHUd2xlxYpxhPxoeDHc8bqctlIUKpm7JbnnHq0SYENx+TUs ltPDaDi9hHFwp8I3WrGH0JpnOH8c88a9aJluDWma4GBdQReYPFzs46p1NSE/5h8xJ9kHVZDlv w3soComDF5o+SWJBZHnBD325aUhR4eUH84SrCP2bXda84v9LmmIF2Zs+vuR8WbFVHOn6fcawn 9aIY/vSLlTib8cYOPg1zmhKDLX7Rw== Subject: Re: [Codel] Per-Paket-Overhead in DOCSIS networks X-BeenThere: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: CoDel AQM discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:15:38 -0000 Hi Greg, hi Jonathan, > On Jun 23, 2016, at 20:59 , Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On 23 Jun, 2016, at 21:51, Greg White wrote: >>=20 >> For downstream packets, the DOCSIS MAC header consists of the = standard 6-byte MAC Header, plus 6 bytes for the DS EHDR and 5 bytes for = the Downstream Privacy EH Element. So, 17+14+4=3D35 bytes of = per-packet overhead for a downstream DOCSIS MAC Frame. For upstream = packets, there will typically be only the 6-byte MAC Header, plus the 4 = byte Upstream Privacy EH version 2 Element, so 10+14+4=3D28 bytes of = per-packet overhead for an Upstream DOCSIS MAC Frame. >=20 > Thanks Greg, this is useful information for me to build into my next = overhead model update. I fully agree, thanks a lot! Note to self, now it is clear that = upstream and downstream overhead need independent entry fields=E2=80=A6 Best Regards Sebastian >=20 > - Jonathan Morton >=20