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From: Phineas Gage <phineas919@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] Software rate limiting with fq_codel for point-to-point WiFi backhaul links
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:37:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5EA3C6E6-76C7-4347-9B14-3C310271A8FD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EB6A0AC3-908A-4E80-8283-E31CFC1C1483@gmail.com>

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Ok, I had not realized that, thanks. :)

I’ve not seen this done anywhere, has anyone tried it? Otherwise I’ll give it a try and write back what I find.

In this case, the throughput for the backhaul links “should” be mostly stable, and we’ll just accept any variation as “no worse than before”.

It's true, I also want to try Cake (anywhere I wrote fq_codel that could be substituted with Cake), and I see from here (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/#installing-cake-out-of-tree-on-linux <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/#installing-cake-out-of-tree-on-linux>) that it should work on the 3.16.7 kernel I need to target. Voyage Linux doesn’t install with kernel sources, but I should be able to get that compiled with their SDK.

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9 Dec, 2016, at 12:12, Phineas Gage <phineas919@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Given the half-duplex nature of 802.11 WiFi, is it possible to use fq_codel with software rate limiting on separate hardware from the WiFi radio, while still allowing at or near the full WiFi link rate?
> 
> Given that you can’t reliably predict the actual wifi throughput from userspace, and that it will vary over time due to external interference and path attenuation, that would be difficult.
> 
> However, you *can* loop both the ingress and egress traffic through a common IFB interface, and shape that - using Cake, even.  That sounds like what you’re trying to experiment with.
> 
> - Jonathan Morton
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-09 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-09 10:12 [Codel] " Phineas Gage
2016-12-09 11:39 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2016-12-09 12:37   ` Phineas Gage [this message]
2016-12-11 11:54     ` Phineas Gage
2016-12-09 13:41 ` David Lang
2016-12-09 14:43   ` Phineas Gage

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