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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
	Eric Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>,
	codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, John Crispin <blogic@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: [Codel] FQ_Codel lwn draft article review
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:16:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txscm2lm.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6_p_aq3o-Jx3w1-j+OQOcU27P85VSYCDpTTEw3hAL1VQ@mail.gmail.com> (Dave Taht's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:19:37 +0100")

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Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

> I keep noting that the next phase of the rrul development is to find a
> good pair of CIR one way measurements that look a bit like voip.
> Either that test can get added to netperf or we use another tool, or
> we create one, and I keep hoping for recommendations from various
> people on this list. Come on, something like this exists? Anybody?

I came across this in the iperf documentation:

"Jitter calculations are continuously computed by the server, as
specified by RTP in RFC 1889. The client records a 64 bit
second/microsecond timestamp in the packet. The server computes the
relative transit time as (server's receive time - client's send time).
The client's and server's clocks do not need to be synchronized; any
difference is subtracted out in the jitter calculation. Jitter is the
smoothed mean of differences between consecutive transit times."

http://iperf.fr/#tuningudp

Iperf seems to output jitter measurements on the *server* side when
doing UDP transfers. So incorporating this into netperf-wrapper would
require either some way to notify a server to start up an iperf instance
sending to the client (and finding some way to persuade firewalls/NATs
on the way to let the packets through), or create a server-side wrapper
that monitors the server-side output and sends it to the client on
request via some sort of rpc.

The latter should be pretty straight forward, I suppose. And if I recall
correctly, you did want to measure the upstream jitter?

-Toke

-- 
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
toke@toke.dk

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAA93jw5yFvrOyXu2s2DY3oK_0v3OaNfnL+1zTteJodfxtAAzcQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-23  8:57 ` Dave Taht
2012-11-23 22:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-24  0:07     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-11-24 16:19       ` Dave Taht
2012-11-24 16:36         ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " dpreed
2012-11-24 19:57         ` [Codel] " Andrew McGregor
2012-11-26 21:13         ` Rick Jones
2012-11-26 21:19           ` Dave Taht
2012-11-26 22:16         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2012-11-26 23:21           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-11-26 23:39             ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " dpreed
2012-11-26 23:58               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-11-26 17:20       ` [Codel] " Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 21:05       ` Rick Jones
2012-11-26 23:18         ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Rick Jones
2012-11-27 22:03     ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " Jim Gettys
2012-11-27 22:31       ` [Codel] [Bloat] " David Lang
2012-11-27 22:54         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-27 23:15           ` Andrew McGregor
2012-11-28  0:51             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28 17:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28 14:06         ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Michael Richardson
2012-11-27 22:49       ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-27 23:53         ` Greg White
2012-11-28  0:27           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28  3:43             ` Kathleen Nichols
2012-11-28  4:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28 16:01                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28 16:16                   ` Jonathan Morton
2012-11-28 17:44                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-28 18:37                       ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Michael Richardson
2012-11-28 18:51                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-28 21:44                           ` Michael Richardson
2012-11-28 19:00                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-02 21:37                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-12-02 21:47                           ` Andrew McGregor
2012-12-03  8:04                             ` Dave Taht
2012-12-02 22:07                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-02 22:15                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-12-02 22:30                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-02 22:51                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-11-28 17:20       ` [Codel] " Paul E. McKenney
2012-12-02 23:06         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-12-03 11:24           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-12-03 11:31             ` Dave Taht
2012-12-03 12:54               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-12-03 14:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-12-03 15:19                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2012-12-03 15:49                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-03 15:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-12-03 15:58               ` David Woodhouse
2012-12-04  3:13                 ` Dan Siemon
2012-12-05  0:01                   ` Sebastian Moeller
     [not found]                   ` <1354613026.72238.YahooMailNeo@web126202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
2012-12-05  3:41                     ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Dan Siemon
     [not found]                       ` <1354739624.4431.YahooMailNeo@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
2012-12-06  4:12                         ` Dan Siemon
2012-11-30  1:09       ` Dan Siemon

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