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From: Kathleen Nichols <nichols@pollere.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Anton Mich <lp2s1h@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Codel] Fwd:  count and  rec_inv_sqrt initialization
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:09:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A2A564DA-7506-4F36-BE94-544DF988D8A7@pollere.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343365976.2626.12171.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

Probably best to say the control law is where we are still working.

On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:47 -0700, Anton Mich wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> Thanks for looking into this! 
>> May I also ask what is the intuition behind using this delta (which
>> is, in my understanding, equal to the number of drops between the
>> lastcount and the current count) as the new count value? I tried to
>> track down in the codel list when this changed from what's in the
>> paper, pseudocode and NS-2 to what is now in Linux but I didn't find
>> anything.
>> 
> 
> Kathleen & Van are still discussing of what should be exactly done here.
> 
> The delta idea came from them, at a moment no public discussion was
> happening (before publication, we were privately implementing codel)
> 
> Before the delta, we had following codes :
> 
> Version v1 -> v6 : (05/03/2012 -> 05/05/2012)
> 
> +                       if (now.tv64 - q->drop_next.tv64 < 
> +                               16 * q->interval.tv64) {
> +                               int c = q->count - 1;
> +                               q->count = c < 1 ? 1 : c;
> +                       } else {
> +                               q->count = 1;
> +                       }
> 
> But count was growing and was not going back to lower values
> 
> I suggested to use instead :
> 
> if (now - drop_next<  16.*interval) {
>        unsigned int c = q->count >> 1;
> 
>        count = c < 1 ? 1 : c;
> else {
>        count = 1;
> }
> 
> Then we also tried 
> 
> c = min(q->count - 1, q->count - (q->count>>4));
> 
> (Dave even had a  module param :)
> 
> static u32 count_rescale(struct codel_sched_data *q, codel_time_t now) {
>        s32 c = 1;
> 
>        if (codel_time_after(now - q->drop_next, 16 * q->interval)) {
>                switch(decrease_method) {
>                        case 3:
>                                break;
>                        case 2: /* Dumazet 2 */
>                                c = q->count >> 1;
>                                break;
>                        case 1: /* Dumazet 1 */
>                                c = min(q->count - 1,
>                                        q->count - (q->count >> 4));
>                                break;
>                        case 0: /* Codel Paper Default */
>                        default:
>                                c = q->count - 1;
>                }
>                c = max(1U, c);
>        }
>        return (u32) c;
> }
> 
> in v13 ( 05/10/2012) we had the current form
> 
> But codel is not finalized ;)
> 
> 
> 
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      reply	other threads:[~2012-07-27 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-06 18:10 [Codel] " Anton Mich
2012-07-06 18:20 ` [Codel] Fwd: " Anton Mich
2012-07-25 10:26   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-07-26 23:47     ` Anton Mich
2012-07-27  5:12       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-07-27 20:09         ` Kathleen Nichols [this message]

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