From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5732C208AB0; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbfa7 with SMTP id fa7so1433418wgb.28 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ok9BNiZBSh+3yNTfGE7vWq21nkTHbl0XbzdqA0IJibY=; b=xaibdy0i+E9aelmYCiMvp8i60ke4OF4BNeLNY1CYiXThdtG5YBKCcy3Mveo8VrW628 s3j1nXQ67DBUwfFSRUIjsRQ6Zvhi56FsZZlFc7JPUKDxRFhbQc3n9bzP/mbcaj/98gca UW2FbfxzJL+NDFeRB7XzUjBvP3BX03Ts1IrQ28SQvHAyYsQONFiG9TEsrqIFleyKp84c go5cLB+Ch5M9ff4+594A7RPRLScHtT/nZLBbR79d0WzFI7YuCXiLPIKyLYpc7WAAcD8f z5nU35n79lZS/gj0mZFFcU2W832foizyCgmHuMrgJHaB9qMRskEuMFIOfIvjghl4rgWP TQbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.237.161 with SMTP id y33mr7994981weq.62.1347298894876; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.159.134 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat-announce@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Codel] some bloat-related updates, VJ's talk, mine, other items... X-BeenThere: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: CoDel AQM discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:41:38 -0000 The bloat list itself has been kind of dead lately. We have a tendency to think everyone is paying attention to g+ and subscribed to Jim's blog. High on my list that everyone see is: Van Jacobson's wonderful talk on bloat, codel, and fq_codel at ietf 84. http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Recordings/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF84= _TSVAREA&chapter=3Dpart_3 Do check it out AND pass it around as much as possible! I wanted to note that, of late, the bulk of debloating activity has been on the codel and cerowrt-devel mailing lists. Please check in or subscribe there for developments on those two projects. https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo Also, it's fairly rare that I get in front of a camera. I gave a talk about our current lines of research at the lincs.fr lab in Paris, which is now up on their beta page for this and the rest of their seminar series: http://gang.inria.fr/~fmathieu/index.php/Main/Lincs A direct youtube link to my talk is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRjfmrqkLzo&feature=3Dyoutu.be While the first half is review for those that have seen Van's talk, I go into one of our open problems with finding an interval, the issues with wifi (since day one) and and also with the general case potential bittorrent/ledbat/AQM interactions that have concern= ed me since my initial stay at the lincs last year. I got a good question regarding IP and patents, too... (to add some context to the talk above - lincs.fr is home to some key LEDBAT researchers: http://perso.telecom-paristech.fr/~drossi/index.php?n=3DMain.PublicationsBy= Date And Paris is also the home of Juliusz Chroboczek, who in addition to babel, ahcp, is one of the authors of Transmission, and of some components of bittorrent http://www.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/software/bittorrent/ Lastly: I thank everyone for trying to help out on the cerowrt project. I had enough contributions to almost make rent this month before tripping over an obscure section of Amazon's EULA, the account is frozen, and it looks like y'all will get your money back. I don't know what to do about it. There is a shimmer of light on the horizon for some bloat-related work for me which will let me resume contributing both financially as well as personally to the cerowrt/debloat effort by December. It's back to panic time now, though. I was so glad (for a couple days) to see so many willing to help put a floor under what we have been doing for so long. Somehow, convincing Amazon that what we've been delivering is a digital good, like an mp3, seems to be the only course forward there, or we need to find another payments processor. PS A big thx to Denis Ovsienko for getting us a new SSL key. --=20 Dave T=E4ht