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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross@avanw.com>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 23:09:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6mzUaQ5-Lq1ca_QF_yoS35_OtNZPOATHMukc=w=C+qEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B4D136A1-AF2D-4E98-91CC-D7098D040E91@gmail.com>

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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9 May, 2012, at 4:04 pm, Kevin Gross wrote:
>
>> From the paper (figure 7), you can see that CoDel still leaves spikes of buffer occupancy when network conditions change. These will still be disruptive to real-time traffic. Many networks that need QoS now will still need QoS. Networks that do not have QoS will be much more usable with CoDel.
>
> Combining AQM with FQ certainly seems like a good idea to me.  I haven't had a chance to try the implementation of fq_codel which already exists yet, but it's compiled and just waiting for me to get around to it.  If it works, then it should be an excellent default.

I would certainly like more folk to analyse fq_codel, particularly in
the context of TCP mice and what we call ANTs these days. It seems to
be really excellent, but I too haven't had much time to look at it,
yet. It certainly does an even better job than codel of allowing
sparse streams through in my own testing, and I run it by default on
my laptops, wireless gear, routers and desktop at present. Under heavy
load things like cerowrt and ssh and other stuff like mosh, remain
incredibly responsive.

With ponies that good, there has got to be some manure somewhere.

>  - Jonathan Morton
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  1:04 [Codel] " Dave Taht
2012-05-09  2:02 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Kevin Gross
2012-05-09  3:13 ` [Codel] " Kathleen Nichols
2012-05-09  3:56   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  5:16 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2012-05-09  5:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09  5:41     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  7:32       ` [Codel] [codel] some numbers on dual 10Gb links Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 13:04   ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Kevin Gross
2012-05-16  5:55     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  6:09       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:05         ` [Codel] Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq dave taht
2012-05-16  7:20           ` Dave Taht
2012-05-16  7:42             ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:02                 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:14                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:31                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:37                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:59                         ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 10:10                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 13:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:40               ` Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:53                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:33             ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:48               ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  6:09       ` Dave Taht [this message]
2012-05-16  6:31         ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:15           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-09 19:10   ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-05-09 19:15     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 19:28       ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:02     ` Simon Barber
2012-05-09 20:06   ` Fred Baker
2012-05-09 21:47     ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-09 23:58       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-10  2:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  2:37   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-10  6:35     ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10  6:54       ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  7:02         ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 14:25           ` Justin McCann
2012-05-10 14:42             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 15:34               ` Neil Davies
2012-05-10 21:20               ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-14  7:27           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-14  7:34             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 13:55             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-18 20:56               ` [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems Jonathan Morton
2012-05-18 21:36                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-18 22:34                   ` Dave Taht

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