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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 15:34:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw77gEJxxGJ1gXH=KquNukxnEqVTsp6nT8npai07v2=c=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6g0sUPuE2pa7xdv8=U8GTS+df55qEpOVT8rPmFLsvjfw@mail.gmail.com>

And felix tells me that the fq_codel fix for better backlog handling
is in openwrt 31813.

This should improve performance in the case of various forms of flooding,
and probably, bittorrent.

I've heard a rumor that codel (I don't know about fq_codel, don't have
a ns3 simulation
yet) is slightly more controlling of TCP reno, than TCP cubic. This is
not a disadvantage,
in my mind! as the only thing these days that uses a reno-like system is uTP.

Would love some data. I'd intended to setup bittorrent seeder of
things like the gutenberg
library to take a look at these characteristics, but I'll do that next
week, unless someone
beats me to it.

The openwrt buildbot system is running a little slow these days, while
I've donated
a machine to the effort, and am hoping to add a second, more would be
nice to have.

Me, I'm taking the first long weekend off I've had in a year, and
going to the Maker
Faire, in San Mateo. Should be some pretty nice toys to see, there.

But hopefully, builds should be available on Sunday for all platforms.
Still a few
patches left to come...

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 14 May, 2012, at 4:55 pm, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>
>>>> So I repeat my question: where can I reliably go and buy a DSL modem
>>>> that I can put Linux on?  It probably helps to mention that I'm in
>>>> Finland, so a European (or at least British) reseller is preferable.
>>>
>>> If the Geos or Solos are too expensive, I'd be looking for other ADSL
>>> devices supported by OpenWrt. Probably Lantiq-based. The Netgear
>>> DGN3500B perhaps (see recent traffic on openwrt-devel).
>>
>> The 3700 is back-ordered by weeks, and the 3800 doesn't have a modem, and the 3500 isn't even in the local catalogues.  Netgear doesn't seem to be well regarded over here, even by the hacker types - and you *know* we have hacker types aplenty.
>>
>> I double-checked all my hardware again, and while I can technically get OpenWRT on my D-Link modem, it can't actually drive the *modem* part because Broadcom is mean and stingy.
>>
>> After biting the bullet and going through the local retailers' catalogues with a fine-toothed comb, I eventually found this - a fine specimen as far as hardware specs goes:
>>
>> http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/WBMR-HP-G300H-EU
>>
>> It happens to be Lantiq based, and so OpenWRT shows full support for it:
>>
>> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wbmr-hp-g300h
>>
>> Jimm's is transitioning to a purely mail order system and is based in a different city, but it turned out that my local megahypersuperretailer had just got a batch in stock, so I got one from there.
>>
>> Well, this should be fun.
>
> As noted elsewhere, fq_codel is now the default qos system in openwrt
> as of build 31761
>
> http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/one_line_per_build
>
> 37 arches, 150 platforms, no waiting.
>
> There are still a few patches left to land, and it doesn't turn it on
> on the wireless or ethernet by default, although it should definitely
> do so, in the case of the latter, and well, it helps a bit on
> wireless, too, although major surgery on the stack remains to get it
> right.
>
> And codel + QFQ remains interesting.
>
> I look forward to hearing about your results.
>
>>  - Jonathan Morton
>>
>
>
>
> --
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      reply	other threads:[~2012-05-18 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  1:04 [Codel] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-09  2:02 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Kevin Gross
2012-05-09  3:13 ` [Codel] " Kathleen Nichols
2012-05-09  3:56   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  5:16 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2012-05-09  5:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09  5:41     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  7:32       ` [Codel] [codel] some numbers on dual 10Gb links Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 13:04   ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Kevin Gross
2012-05-16  5:55     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  6:09       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:05         ` [Codel] Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq dave taht
2012-05-16  7:20           ` Dave Taht
2012-05-16  7:42             ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:02                 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:14                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:31                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:37                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:59                         ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 10:10                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 13:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:40               ` Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:53                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:33             ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:48               ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  6:09       ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-16  6:31         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:15           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-09 19:10   ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-05-09 19:15     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 19:28       ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:02     ` Simon Barber
2012-05-09 20:06   ` Fred Baker
2012-05-09 21:47     ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-09 23:58       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-10  2:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  2:37   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-10  6:35     ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10  6:54       ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  7:02         ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 14:25           ` Justin McCann
2012-05-10 14:42             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 15:34               ` Neil Davies
2012-05-10 21:20               ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-14  7:27           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-14  7:34             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 13:55             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-18 20:56               ` [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems Jonathan Morton
2012-05-18 21:36                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-18 22:34                   ` Dave Taht [this message]

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