From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Codel] hardware multiqueue in fq_codel?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:19:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7GD_D0AHo-GcfDqup8a9WsT0rpT24U0Qu7a7SAoYT-WQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1373896674.10804.73.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:40 +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>
>> Then they should also be smart enough to change their default fq_codel
>> qdisc, to be a prio band based qdisc... shouldn't they ;-)
>>
>
>
> Some companies do this classification at the edge of their network, so
> that they do not have to worry for each machine of their fleet.
>
> Forcing them to learn how to 'fix' things once a new linux version is
> installed would be quite lame. I wont be the guy responsible for this.
>
> Listen, there is no point trying to tell me how fq_codel is better than
> pfifo_fast. Is an apple better than an orange ?
Is a tesla better than a oil tanker? :)
> Instead, we only have to create a clear path.
+10!
> 1) Allow the default qdisc to be specified/chosen in Kconfig, a bit
> like tcp congestion module (cubic is the default)
Concur. Presently that would require exposing some structures
that are private (the qdisc *ops) to this, tho... (?)
> 2) Allow the default qdisc to be selected by a /proc/sys entry, like TCP
> congestion module.
Concur.
Not clear where would be a good place there. /proc/sys/core? I am not fond
of all the tcp related stuff that ended up in ipv4...
I don't see the need for the equivalent of a tcp_allowed_congestion_control,
just a qdisc_default or default_qdisc.
> 3) Define the PRIO + codel/band0 + fq_codel/band1 + codel/band2 as a new
> standalone qdisc
Stressing "a". Concur.
> 4) Eventually switch the default Kconfig from pfifo_fast to this beast.
After tons more testing on ever wider deployments. Sure.
There's a net-next window opening up now...
--
Dave Täht
Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-15 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-11 17:09 Dave Taht
2013-07-11 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 18:06 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-11 18:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 21:18 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 0:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 0:48 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 9:34 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 15:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2013-07-12 16:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:00 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 13:40 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-15 13:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 14:24 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-15 15:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 17:19 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2013-07-12 16:37 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:39 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:54 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:35 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 18:06 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 12:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 17:32 ` luca.muscariello
2013-07-11 19:41 ` Jonathan Morton
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