My intuition suggests something like: Target = 4ms + MTU sized packet duration Interval = target * 20 (But only if the resulting interval is more than 100ms) Possibly the packet duration may need a small factor (2 or 3) to get the balance right. On 13 Mar 2014 19:41, "Sebastian Moeller" wrote: > Dear Experts, > > Codel and especially fq_codel have massively improved > snappiness/interactivity of typical residential internet connections, as > shown in the cerowrt testbed and also in the french ISP free's roll-out of > coddled xddl modems. One observation has been that at low bandwidth the > latency/bandwidth trade-off does not seem to be ideal and an empirical > solution to this problem has been to increase the target as a function of > the available bandwidth. I realize that codel tries to accommodate for > low-bandwidth links by always allowing at least one packet in the queue. > But empirically that does not seem to be enough for good behavior on slow > links (I think the issue is that the bandwidth sacrifice seems a bit to > large)... > Currently we try to model what we know about free's approach in > cerowrt, basically we increase target as a function of bandwidth and also > increase interval be the same amount as target. Now having read section > "3.2 Setpoint" of > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel/?include_text=1makes a strong point that target should be in the range of 5-10% of > interval. So would it make more sense to increase interval so that after > adjustments new_target = 0.05*new_interval still stays true? Or would you > recommend to do something along the lines of: > new_interval = 100ms + known DSL link latency (can be in the range > of dozens of ms) > new_target = new_interval * 0.05 or new_interval * 0.1 > > I guess I will try to actually test the different approaches in the near > future, but would be delighted to get help establishing a decent hypothesis > before hand which modification actually will work best. > > > Bet Regards > Sebastian > _______________________________________________ > Codel mailing list > Codel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/codel >