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From: Andrew McGregor <andrewmcgr@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] self tuning codel
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 16:00:56 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA_e5Z5bK2QHLmJ7S-S+dYYdTaBuUzh2Ge4Hwi-KNQ8rcdCnEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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So, it has a core assumption: that a stable arrangement of links with small
persistent delays is something that both can and should exist.

It's kind of like a fluid model, in many ways.

Thing is, I don't think it's desirable that persistent delays exist
anywhere.

Now, autotuning codel is probably a good idea... but the implementation
should be local. If you're a bottleneck, you may as well behave as if
you're the only bottleneck, even if that isn't the case, because if you're
in a distributed bottleneck situation your actions will help anyway. A
global distributed solver like is proposed here could possibly work in a
private network, but I can't see that solution flying in precisely the
place you really need it: peering.

One way to do this locally would be to identify the impulse response of the
stochastic DE describing the aggregate running through the link using
something like https://arxiv.org/abs/1309.7857 and then tune to optimal
behaviour for the resulting DE, along the lines of
https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.08439.


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:42 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> there's so much math in this that I cannot make heads or tails of it.
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> https://www.eee.hku.hk/~kcleung/papers/conferences/bufferbloat_multi-bottleneck:INFOCOM_2018/PID5170809.pdf
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-20  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-18 22:42 Dave Taht
2018-07-19 19:04 ` Kathleen Nichols
2018-07-19 19:16   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-20  6:00 ` Andrew McGregor [this message]

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