From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-x22c.google.com (mail-vc0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDB4B21F41C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id kv19so11051708vcb.3 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:30:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=N7PYBaVPuSdPFtdUTtmijWghk/z4HIahlIp4KO/Uo3s=; b=YulCy+dJShfUlOEu3ay+hlHC7Jw8JgSWW9ST7b7zSJbGbWyTdr6QWr18ny67XEqHiM 9tS436LvHmrGC3WrpH5GSReLB+1HSeMghW+xE0lCieeh60609gKAVbDtsOmBL7SN7HvQ S2PCtETDnRlcQXX2Gd2WMMOHjlP3ws7rbbHX3aP0ur2VGSIWO3IeiU1YzOCMX1FDlk5g 4sNDyrS9IElfTcUkcmoda1r5VT5xkwdwgvMlN8rreljivffJO/7+ovbiijGqI6ErIpW8 5Hk9h16eHf+9rN2Q/w/2eJiChUDoSij+5h8EsT8J54yE6shFa7Lka/sSoYFuguBtOJ4Z Ar1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.107.227 with SMTP id hf3mr17588463vdb.44.1425634204200; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.24.79 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.24.79 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 01:30:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 11:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Morton To: sahil grover Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5485f9452336405109b5468 Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Codel] suggestions for enhancing AQM X-BeenThere: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: CoDel AQM discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 09:30:34 -0000 --bcaec5485f9452336405109b5468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Right now we consider AQM and Fair Queuing to be a solved problem, in terms of designing and implementing algorithms. The open problem in this area is DEPLOYMENT of these known solutions in the field. This is not strictly a technical problem, but a political and economic one. There are two related areas which we are still working on at a technical level: Comprehensive Queue Management (CQM) which adds traffic classification to the existing combination of AQM and FQ, and adapting AQM/FQ/CQM to Wi-Fi networks, which have some unique characteristics which require special consideration. However, making progress in these two areas requires the people involved to have understood the state of the art at a deep level before they can usefully contribute. It also requires work with real traffic and environments, or at least simulators considerably more advanced than ns2. - Jonathan Morton --bcaec5485f9452336405109b5468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Right now we consider AQM and Fair Queuing to be a solved pr= oblem, in terms of designing and implementing algorithms. The open problem = in this area is DEPLOYMENT of these known solutions in the field. This is n= ot strictly a technical problem, but a political and economic one.

There are two related areas which we are still working on at= a technical level: Comprehensive Queue Management (CQM) which adds traffic= classification to the existing combination of AQM and FQ, and adapting AQM= /FQ/CQM to Wi-Fi networks, which have some unique characteristics which req= uire special consideration.

However, making progress in these two areas requires the peo= ple involved to have understood the state of the art at a deep level before= they can usefully contribute. It also requires work with real traffic and = environments, or at least simulators considerably more advanced than ns2.

- Jonathan Morton

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