From: divya singla <divyasingla1989@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Codel] About Packet Drop in Codel
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 23:42:32 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAONkte8VwBrVAgwTb=tfQCwPYqXOjjmtOKBVEbzpU=0J00QS_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJq5cE1uzJqaHn2YB_Cta-qg6=2H_WGoz6dns3KJqp3bFM38Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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But Sir i heard that UDP does not respond to congestion.Even though its
packets are lost, it keeps sending packets at the same rate(unlike tcp)
-- please answer this too:
Does codel implement concept of marking(ECN) in ns2?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
wrote:
> With UDP, you're at the mercy of the application using it. With TCP,
> you're merely at the mercy of the operating system.
>
> AQM acts on UDP packets in the same way as TCP packets - in fact it can't
> tell them apart. So any application which detects and responds to UDP
> packet loss in the same way as TCP does, will back off just the same.
>
> In practice, UDP is used for several different types of application:
>
> - simple request response, such as DNS and NTP, where eliminating TCP's
> connection setup overhead is important. In any case, TCP's congestion
> control doesn't get a chance to do any good on such s short-lived
> connection. Packet loss in this situation is tolerated by retry, with
> exponential backoff as an alternative congestion control measure.
>
> - latency sensitive and often isochronous (inelastic) flows like VoIP.
> Packet loss may lead to a loss of quality, but there is little the
> application can do to reduce its loss except dropping the call completely.
>
> - as a way to implement delay sensitive and pacific congestion control
> algorithms, as in uTP.
>
> A flow isolation system, such as that in fq_codel, will often leave UDP
> flows alone completely, because they tend not to be the ones using the bulk
> of the bandwidth. Conversely, if a single UDP flow was responsible for the
> congestion, it would let the other traffic bypass it. This is why fq_codel
> is better than just plain codel, if you can get it.
>
> - Jonathan Morton
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-03 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-26 17:12 divya singla
2015-02-26 18:32 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2015-02-26 23:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-02 17:43 ` divya singla
2015-03-02 18:10 ` Rick Jones
2015-03-02 18:22 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-02 18:43 ` divya singla
2015-03-02 19:07 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-03 18:12 ` divya singla [this message]
2015-03-03 18:27 ` Rick Jones
2015-03-02 18:35 ` Jonathan Morton
[not found] <mailman.153549.1425025588.1815.codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2015-02-28 1:57 ` David Collier-Brown
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