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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:54:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CB044C1E-AE9B-46FD-9AB0-2777242F48B9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1336631707.27520.136.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>


On 10 May, 2012, at 9:35 am, David Woodhouse wrote:

>>> So overall we have an AQM that provides a low-latency signal of appropriate magnitude to TCPs when the link is genuinely congested, and gets out of the way when it isn't.  Combined with a fair queueing discipline (eg. SFQ or QFQ), I think this will turn out to be an excellent default setting for all sorts of equipment.  What would it take to get this into a DSL modem (at either end of the link)?
>> 
>> David Woodhouse tossed a copy of the paper on his machine before
>> getting on a plane. He's been working on a ADSL device for quite some
>> time. I don't know if he and his box are together, or separated.
> 
> Separated by about five thousand miles right now; I'll be home on
> Monday; awake by Tuesday. OpenWrt supports a bunch of ADSL modems,
> including the shiny dual-port Traverse Geos that I'm using at home. It's
> running OpenWrt trunk, and it's simple enough for me to update the
> kernel.

I want to buy a modem that I can put Linux on, and that supports ADSL2+ Annex M.  Where can I get one?

Vaguely acceptable solutions include CardBus or PCI/PCIe slot modems to put in a PowerBook or a PC.  I have enough spare hardware to make that work, and the lines here are underground and so not susceptible to lightning.

> As for the *ISP* end of the link, we could talk to the ISP about that.
> Their LNS isn't running Linux though; it's their own code.

I suppose the downstream side of ADSL is less vexing for now.  Eventually AQM and FQ needs to be in the DSLAM and cell tower by default, though.

I might have mentioned previously what my local cell tower is like - 30+ seconds (at 500Kbps) of tail-drop FIFO.  Yuck.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-10  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  1:04 [Codel] " Dave Taht
2012-05-09  2:02 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Kevin Gross
2012-05-09  3:13 ` [Codel] " Kathleen Nichols
2012-05-09  3:56   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  5:16 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2012-05-09  5:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09  5:41     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09  7:32       ` [Codel] [codel] some numbers on dual 10Gb links Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 13:04   ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Kevin Gross
2012-05-16  5:55     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  6:09       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:05         ` [Codel] Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq dave taht
2012-05-16  7:20           ` Dave Taht
2012-05-16  7:42             ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  7:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:02                 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:14                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:31                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16  9:37                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  9:59                         ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 10:10                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 13:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:40               ` Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:53                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:33             ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:48               ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  6:09       ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-16  6:31         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16  8:15           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-09 19:10   ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-05-09 19:15     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 19:28       ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:02     ` Simon Barber
2012-05-09 20:06   ` Fred Baker
2012-05-09 21:47     ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-09 23:58       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-10  2:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10  2:37   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-10  6:35     ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10  6:54       ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2012-05-10  7:02         ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 14:25           ` Justin McCann
2012-05-10 14:42             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 15:34               ` Neil Davies
2012-05-10 21:20               ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-14  7:27           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-14  7:34             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 13:55             ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-18 20:56               ` [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems Jonathan Morton
2012-05-18 21:36                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-18 22:34                   ` Dave Taht

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