From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:54:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CB044C1E-AE9B-46FD-9AB0-2777242F48B9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1336631707.27520.136.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
On 10 May, 2012, at 9:35 am, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>> So overall we have an AQM that provides a low-latency signal of appropriate magnitude to TCPs when the link is genuinely congested, and gets out of the way when it isn't. Combined with a fair queueing discipline (eg. SFQ or QFQ), I think this will turn out to be an excellent default setting for all sorts of equipment. What would it take to get this into a DSL modem (at either end of the link)?
>>
>> David Woodhouse tossed a copy of the paper on his machine before
>> getting on a plane. He's been working on a ADSL device for quite some
>> time. I don't know if he and his box are together, or separated.
>
> Separated by about five thousand miles right now; I'll be home on
> Monday; awake by Tuesday. OpenWrt supports a bunch of ADSL modems,
> including the shiny dual-port Traverse Geos that I'm using at home. It's
> running OpenWrt trunk, and it's simple enough for me to update the
> kernel.
I want to buy a modem that I can put Linux on, and that supports ADSL2+ Annex M. Where can I get one?
Vaguely acceptable solutions include CardBus or PCI/PCIe slot modems to put in a PowerBook or a PC. I have enough spare hardware to make that work, and the lines here are underground and so not susceptible to lightning.
> As for the *ISP* end of the link, we could talk to the ISP about that.
> Their LNS isn't running Linux though; it's their own code.
I suppose the downstream side of ADSL is less vexing for now. Eventually AQM and FQ needs to be in the DSLAM and cell tower by default, though.
I might have mentioned previously what my local cell tower is like - 30+ seconds (at 500Kbps) of tail-drop FIFO. Yuck.
- Jonathan Morton
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-10 6:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-09 1:04 [Codel] " Dave Taht
2012-05-09 2:02 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Kevin Gross
2012-05-09 3:13 ` [Codel] " Kathleen Nichols
2012-05-09 3:56 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 5:16 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2012-05-09 5:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 5:41 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 7:32 ` [Codel] [codel] some numbers on dual 10Gb links Eric Dumazet
2012-05-09 13:04 ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Kevin Gross
2012-05-16 5:55 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 6:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 7:05 ` [Codel] Exploring the potential of codel, fq_codel, and qfq dave taht
2012-05-16 7:20 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-16 7:42 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 7:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 8:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 9:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 9:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 9:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 9:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 9:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-16 10:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 13:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:40 ` Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 17:33 ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2012-05-16 17:48 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 6:09 ` [Codel] [Bloat] The challenge Dave Taht
2012-05-16 6:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-16 8:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-09 19:10 ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-05-09 19:15 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 19:28 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:02 ` Simon Barber
2012-05-09 20:06 ` Fred Baker
2012-05-09 21:47 ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-09 23:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-10 2:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-10 2:37 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-10 6:35 ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 6:54 ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2012-05-10 7:02 ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 14:25 ` Justin McCann
2012-05-10 14:42 ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-10 15:34 ` Neil Davies
2012-05-10 21:20 ` Jim Gettys
2012-05-14 7:27 ` Jonathan Morton
2012-05-14 7:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-14 13:55 ` David Woodhouse
2012-05-18 20:56 ` [Codel] [Bloat] Linux-able modems Jonathan Morton
2012-05-18 21:36 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-18 22:34 ` Dave Taht
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