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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Codel] hardware multiqueue in fq_codel?
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:36:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FAD20AE2-21C2-43E2-8DDD-B695BA6FE6E2@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1373642001.10804.18.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

Hi there,


On Jul 12, 2013, at 17:13 , Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 11:34 +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
>> I also think of "fq_codel" as a good replacement for pfifo_fast.  As
>> the 3-PRIO bands in pfifo_fast is replaced with something smarter in
>> "fq_codel". (IMHO please don't try to add a prio_fq_codel, just be because
>> pfifo_fast had prio bands, people can just enable a prio qdisc if they
>> really need it).
> 
> Nope. Its really easy for an attacker to flood your fq_codel with say
> UDP messages on all available hash slots.

	Question, what stops the same attacker to also fudge the TOS bits (say to land in priority band 0)? Just asking...

> 
> Some people really want the high prio packets to be sent before any
> med/low prio packets. Not everybody uses a separate ethernet port for
> management and heartbeats.
> 
> If we want to replace pfifo_fast as the default qdisc, we want some
> integrated qdisc with 3 bands.
> 
> I presume something really simple like :
> 
> a fifo for band 0 messages
> a fq_codel for band 1 messages
> a fifo for band 2 messages
> 
> Would be more than enough, and this also should use device txqueue len
> as the (dynamic) limit, because some existing scripts expect to control
> qdisc limit using "ifconfig eth0 txqueuelen 100", not a tc script.
> 
> 
> 
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Best
	Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-11 17:09 Dave Taht
2013-07-11 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 18:06   ` Dave Taht
2013-07-11 18:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-11 21:18       ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12  0:06         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12  0:48           ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12  9:34         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 15:13           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:36             ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2013-07-12 16:54               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:00                 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 13:40                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-15 13:57                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 14:24                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-15 15:30                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-15 17:19                     ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:37             ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:39               ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 16:50               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 16:54                 ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:19                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 17:35                     ` Dave Taht
2013-07-12 17:47                       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-07-12 18:06                         ` Dave Taht
2013-07-15 12:56                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2013-07-12 17:32                   ` luca.muscariello
2013-07-11 19:41     ` Jonathan Morton

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