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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at>,
	 "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Bloat] The "Some Congestion Experienced" ECN codepoint - a new internet draft -
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:47:18 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1903111044210.3161@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2594F939-829A-443C-B1FE-2193F870E48B@gmail.com>

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, Jonathan Morton wrote:

>> On 11 Mar, 2019, at 11:07 am, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I am not convinced blowing the last codepoint on SCE has enough merit.
>
> I will make a stronger statement: I am convinced that blowing the last codepoint on L4S does *not* have enough merit.

... and I believe that blowing it on SCE doesn't have merit either.

That's the entire thing why I am opposing the use of ECT(1) unless we're 
*really* *really* *really* sure there is something we want to blow it on.

Using it for SCE for me is marginal benefit compared to what ECT(1) could 
be used for either. I think L4S is proposing enough novelty that it could 
be used for that, but I'm open for other suggestions. SCE isn't enough.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-11  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-10 18:04 [Codel] " Dave Taht
2019-03-10 18:53 ` [Codel] [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller
     [not found] ` <550C0248-1704-49DA-ABDC-49A91E0AC6F3@akamai.com>
2019-03-10 19:30   ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1903110800310.3161@uplift.swm.pp.se>
2019-03-11  7:35       ` Richard Scheffenegger
2019-03-11  7:54         ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-11  8:59         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-11  9:07           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-11  9:10             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-11  9:47               ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2019-03-11 10:11                 ` Dave Taht
     [not found]             ` <9C165094-DE2D-42AA-85F3-71760F01BD92@akamai.com>
2019-03-11 16:13               ` [Codel] [Ecn-sane] " Jonathan Morton
2019-03-11  7:43       ` [Codel] [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-03-13  4:39         ` David Lang
2019-03-10 21:11   ` [Codel] " Dave Taht
2019-03-10 21:28     ` Dave Taht
2019-03-10 21:49       ` Dave Taht
2019-03-10 22:37         ` [Codel] [Ecn-sane] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-11  3:23   ` [Codel] " Michael Richardson
2019-03-11  3:26     ` Dave Taht

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