From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com>
Cc: dickroy@alum.mit.edu, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>,
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net,
codel <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Codel] [Starlink] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon may need to start a go-fund-me page!
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:44:46 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2108101343040.810590@qynat-yncgbc> (raw)
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the biggest problem starlink faces is shipping enough devices (and launching the
satellites to support them), not demand. There are enough people interested in
paying full price that if the broadband subsities did not exist, it wouldn't
reduce the demand noticably.
but if the feds are handing out money, SpaceX is foolish not to apply for it.
David Lang
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Jeremy Austin wrote:
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:33:11 -0800
> From: Jeremy Austin <jeremy@aterlo.com>
> To: dickroy@alum.mit.edu
> Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net,
> codel <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon
> may need to start a go-fund-me page!
>
> A 5.7% reduction in funded locations for StarLink is… not dramatic. If the
> project falls on that basis, they've got bigger problems. Much of that
> discrepancy falls squarely on the shoulders of the FCC and incumbent ISPs
> filing form 477, as well as the RDOF auction being held before improving
> mapping — as Rosenworcel pointed out. The state of broadband mapping is
> still dire.
>
> If I felt like the reallocation of funds would be 100% guaranteed to
> benefit the end Internet user… I'd cheer too.
>
> If.
>
> JHA
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:16 PM Dick Roy <dickroy@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> You may find this of some relevance!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/07/ajit-pai-apparently-mismanaged-9-billion-fund-new-fcc-boss-starts-cleanup/
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers (or whatever!),
>>
>>
>>
>> RR
>>
>>
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2021-07-01 0:12 [Codel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board Dave Taht
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2021-07-02 17:07 ` [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
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2021-07-06 13:46 ` [Codel] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] " Ben Greear
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2021-07-06 21:24 ` Ben Greear
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2021-07-07 13:34 ` Ben Greear
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2021-07-09 10:05 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Luca Muscariello
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2021-08-02 23:16 ` [Codel] [Cake] " David Lang
2021-08-02 23:55 ` Ben Greear
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2021-08-03 3:12 ` David Lang
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2021-08-03 4:44 ` David Lang
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2021-08-10 20:44 ` David Lang [this message]
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2021-08-03 3:06 ` David Lang
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2021-08-08 18:36 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] " Aaron Wood
2021-08-08 18:48 ` [Codel] [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
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2021-07-09 23:37 ` [Codel] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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2021-07-09 23:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2021-07-17 23:56 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Aaron Wood
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2021-07-12 19:07 ` [Codel] " Ben Greear
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2021-07-12 20:32 ` Ben Greear
2021-07-12 20:36 ` [Codel] [Cake] " David Lang
2021-07-17 23:29 ` [Codel] " Aaron Wood
2021-07-12 21:54 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2021-09-20 1:21 ` [Codel] " Dave Taht
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2021-09-20 4:09 ` [Codel] [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " David Lang
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2021-10-26 4:24 ` [Codel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency Eric Dumazet
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2021-10-27 14:29 ` [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
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