From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7535D10EC3A1; Thu, 14 May 2026 21:55:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.2.3.133] (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id F043E224C33; Thu, 14 May 2026 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 12:55:02 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: bob.mcmahon@umbernetworks.com cc: Frantisek Borsik , David Lang , Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , bloat , Jeremy Austin via Rpm , codel@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <709dac7800ee7ad92aafd4eab1c761d9@umbernetworks.com> Message-ID: References: <709dac7800ee7ad92aafd4eab1c761d9@umbernetworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: ZYKPWEMSXL2F5YLWHCZSXO6BA5SLOR6F X-Message-ID-Hash: ZYKPWEMSXL2F5YLWHCZSXO6BA5SLOR6F X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm 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