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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
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Subject: [Codel] Re: [Cake] "Fi-Wi is a new forwarding plane for wireless" - Bob McMahon
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 07:18:02 -0700 (MST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ssop84pn-78s9-2n17-7021-oq3nsn5658s7@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <on96r301-9606-52r1-s355-24426s4sr8p9@ynat.uz>

I do like the idea of moving the scheduling smarts off of the dedicated chips 
and onto the CPU in many ways (the provided firmware is rather poor in may 
cases, plus closed source with all of the problems that entails). But it's 
hard to do even locally, let alone at scale.

I've been around long enough to remember winmodems and the difference between 
real RAID cards and the fakeraid shipped on many motherboards today. SDR radio 
receivers are fantastic, within their capability (which expands every year).

So parts of your system make a lot of sense, but other parts seem to require 
perfect knowledge of the environment, and that has never been able to work even 
on wired networks, and RF is much uglier

David Lang

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-14 16:46 [Codel] "Fi-Wi is a new forwarding plane for wireless" - Bob McMahon Frantisek Borsik
2026-05-14 17:08 ` [Codel] Re: [Cake] " David Lang
2026-05-14 17:26   ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-05-14 19:38     ` bob.mcmahon
2026-05-14 19:55       ` David Lang
2026-05-15 11:11         ` bob.mcmahon
2026-05-15 13:57           ` David Lang
2026-05-15 14:18             ` David Lang [this message]
2026-05-15 15:17             ` bob.mcmahon
2026-05-19 13:52             ` [Codel] Re: [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2026-05-19 18:59               ` David Lang
2026-05-19 22:45                 ` bob.mcmahon
2026-05-21 19:42                   ` Frantisek Borsik

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