From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x836.google.com (mail-qt1-x836.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::836]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22DB3B29E for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 11:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x836.google.com with SMTP id j53so7110262qta.9 for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=F1rtuz8n8LV7lbCe2GTZsZ/78dwK92kzHrOhIIvUR5g=; b=P3PeIYW/4uKgwKt5Q80dSb5qh4LU1eTf1y0g1szLGTofzVhaQqTc0pDYGCy8HyftMO S1sh9WtqmROGp7dlF0t+azJj6hm0mY7m91P3p3cPUIp+48BGrEG0wsxzUJBSi629s94Z r2MZmuN/qG+07htVHHbZXT7XpsstlEzqu6jwcSPThIVUa4ajWzaehPXCgYwctH/04mPS VgdsPRFMU7OWzdfDnaMh6IE4xIpyMZ+CVds9D4oPWxqAiBMmGyaWMS9Ojop8h+CYEnj3 Ts6a/c43OAazXwNTXOCVv5THFQBFI6UqWLhBExU439JOk0yA+hXMMOb+AWCiPEO4IWpt WPBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=F1rtuz8n8LV7lbCe2GTZsZ/78dwK92kzHrOhIIvUR5g=; b=aPNRPrIio9Ucc3j8ctd4fyF4C5NxqVi+N3uIItLR+CzqFOB7FMxLfFFpSln9zeQVZD FEhK7Eo8dnkZdDlvXcTAD2QZE6drU3nFubJNDTg9TIMqrQHVyGeptY6g0bgBdHa0sV8e TOsAHLBbkO4LdI8na5+MrPCoyy9mqECmae7M7iK4kf5LzuMH8dEcyMrF2p7hNBellBmw ub9THzyM2XrOCiBj3C+lw4g1laY/ToQDxDj/vHd/esHl1kHrTSwiI7qDs3mvb5NDaxSu nnjMyfwmMMDR+w0ZIB2G3QT4BPYRBRBoR6CuvTswXPxRiz7G/nAy6wbP+zoPi37vUn3h v33A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXWmlbaGE2sjItDWK1Hhkxq5dLxnf/cv1qvc3AXzvimNFTl/Uf/ d9C6QqJw50qBCK6ne12lK2j8xg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqya4vWDs5suBh2u+2OV04FRZGlGwVHjndqIxcNhO5p9h1tib7wNqKzPEm/tgHfIj8NM5Cf7Vw== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:d1da:: with SMTP id k26mr9744418qvh.117.1557503592512; Fri, 10 May 2019 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.34] (c-73-186-137-119.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [73.186.137.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m129sm2763220qkb.55.2019.05.10.08.53.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 May 2019 08:53:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: <037CE2E0-A87E-4EDE-A4BA-B21D19AD1826@fugue.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6B1CBC87-175A-49E9-BC90-EF4DAF6275A8" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.2\)) Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 11:53:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Joe Touch , Magnus Westerlund , IETF Discussion Mailing List , Dave Taht , ECN-Sane , The IESG , tsvwg IETF list To: Tom Herbert References: <4C8193B9-586C-4ED9-B01E-6BA37071600A@fugue.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] [tsvwg] travel funds for ietf for the next SCE talk? X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 15:53:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6B1CBC87-175A-49E9-BC90-EF4DAF6275A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On May 10, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > Maybe there should be a "non-sponsored" registration tier with a = discount to help make it affordable for the little guys. The problem is figuring out a sustainability model for IETF that = doesn=E2=80=99t rely on attendance fees and hotel stays. --Apple-Mail=_6B1CBC87-175A-49E9-BC90-EF4DAF6275A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = May 10, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>= wrote:
Maybe there should be a "non-sponsored" registration = tier with a discount to help make it affordable for the little = guys.

The problem is = figuring out a sustainability model for IETF that doesn=E2=80=99t rely = on attendance fees and hotel stays.


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