From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67FD13B2A4 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 02:58:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1566889108; bh=xVOkyPsGkQwvAE9EK7kkWFQ2ETc6w6aBqJuaRV/Rprs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=Y0RK5W17yVZe185WyBxmlPa5C1T2OkmFyk4esYt4SzB02TOdw+07+SfXLadylajDf gYhs47j/KEozEtYFiGvk4emgHjLNsET7zilc9ZCMNaZNKPrFaQdI29H/RGjcGdd5Gh RO72d0CWwClgoIyXOkjqm0VHqNtoMal1wgjMNsuo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.11.12.32] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MNt0C-1hrQhI3Q08-00ODvv; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 08:58:28 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 08:58:28 +0200 Cc: ECN-Sane Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1444CD38-2455-41DF-A7FF-17FFC1039E36@gmx.de> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bo4a/C1Kg2JIyU44Dm6qh0N3OEmsOaKRhA+ORAAup7n7g7GmGcc xxGWIuYLUD1pqiaBMVQdh2VwPHtWMcESLQAt7alqxgKPyp6hk15DMZccEEvSXXtKqBACc1D JXzkEJGLDTElzRjleC3ibmQWlXOqY2sKh4owr+1246qLSt7//Zegl2nm7oLvzLkqGGO3WHQ WKaiqFg1VP6rDNEsFW9/Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vZf75i0e8P4=:+RrWYaZqZaGc6/5XGRH7me g9OVaJsgtPzKiHmN5zVtRhZ6EPlK1jjArNDQRp3PeUYGgL6cqk2lAR4vL05aueKMX6PsgUOff qqu0NdgH8P5rQ30MUVrA5X4V0s/ElkoTyMAJi6SuAPRnlmJPORFLWQQsSjrijTYroH410FM97 DyDMNS3QFJU5wErzMDOWfl7ER2Q+WYZrj9d1tuUIaISPtiq7gt6WKJ7mhxi+DfIom0tapoxjW 7X+zEW9doSD1bNwS9QVPoxBWz7XI7A1TlSthCEINrLIXCWai3KnJ5v6yfpOwmd0/gMu9W3Z34 BAnbinUP3IjFE0KiB+ktVSThWUFjzTx9biiXQxeSFEjq2znRUxCWMvi/Us3VxxlCBLXcGlDwr 63vA89oVluk31ZVWiBMX+3UaPcyJq735H29gJ9aDx7FWz5ICrCc6Nk4yqwPQhq/3PSAXp2KVi +ePdbv2lvza5q4S5ahZ963+RdtLErkf5m26JagmnZFV/XaJbJNd7PMmCVYLgNhGyq6eXAzmSj 9tp4bC9gIO4CWnzeO2ztbxkzeTxRASmPUntG5b9evuynzKhG56d2oqEAyqwF1njr6jOuvD+QW WR48nmg9xbfl8OcYFyj+fmcwv4nVhEcv1aGNeygpuzrY95RVEHE+f21L9zO+XSPl5Tkuh/Zyq DVgnkmJA9P2bacOpqLn/KL2RzN/BZL9HMRxONyXY7d3CujoL1nS06qgFzlJ/B1eq8vXp2CTNX bAiOHBU2H5mM/I57NamRaHoKR5KbicCU3FmaWEKXJgrktj4XT4hoEOwhyzJ8GDjKspFeWJAey psf0mi87oL8q7+PAc8c9KfcsMsTt95Avg/B4pIaX9zAbuRwcB5tflFGuqNKJR/IQJZHw8FQgU eCyciSYybyTh8bHSZK1E+dTKx69cX9kQ/M3TtdGJ4EaBaOBCQ1ImB1U7iEEh9e0gwz4m7Sl5i dF2s8QiYQWdSdOGGxlmHiAXsihwgBwlh9//i8Px/bSozgggXn3paV0jOqdwRtI0eZ66vBULVy YFndUozgor0Y0XYSdGKDtvQoyZmeHdjhdkd7kVicES/ORc3Zt2n5z46pcrZegi8s4MZmyIcVy ctrDQwwzpIh4dFiXsm0Lf8lfAKRmfCJso9eXOGKs+5ZWA7KU10epWMZNlNtmKgOkA4R3wKiLe Yw7NebNg7LqtlQxlbQwASDvrA7xCTfjs751PMVs03+LWxB3Q== Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] osx ecn X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 06:58:30 -0000 Hi Dave, > On Aug 27, 2019, at 04:03, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > 0 connection fell back to non-ECN due to excessive CE-markings I wonder whether macosx would be able to gracefully survive a = misclassification into a L4S/NQB queue at a dual queue AQM? What is the = threshold here? Best Regards Sebastian