From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp113.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp113.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20A863CB3C for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:12 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=g001.emailsrvr.com; s=20190322-9u7zjiwi; t=1576099811; bh=GQDdyFOWs6blHarQGLlOYWzITmkKWQNKG/X26TtVy6c=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=iyT/BtQNb1NoZhiSC2fcLQ60MX78Oyj1bTIxwOs4DyygEX8a+MFEQZc1d8NDGn9K/ q3VoX5TgMUqcxxmEqRVjnDf4lO9/Q1bcbNGBXW73T9wJOcri9XPFOyXF0cTeyfgdBV 3JsHyqS7jVwh06oRuvx6HcsdQ6qzE+L51r7BfBm8= Received: from app46.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by smtp23.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C56D12526E; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:11 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@deepplum.com Received: from app46.wa-webapps.iad3a (relay-webapps.rsapps.net [172.27.255.140]) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:11 -0500 Received: from deepplum.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app46.wa-webapps.iad3a (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D38C0051; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by apps.rackspace.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed@deepplum.com, from: dpreed@deepplum.com) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:11 -0500 (EST) X-Auth-ID: dpreed@deepplum.com Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:30:11 -0500 (EST) From: "David P. Reed" To: "David P. Reed" Cc: "Dave Taht" , "Prateesh Goyal" , "ECN-Sane" , "Hari Balakrishnan" , "Mohammad Alizadeh" , "bloat" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: <1576099132.20373478@apps.rackspace.com> References: <1576099132.20373478@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1576099811.72231884@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/17.2.0-RC Subject: Re: [Ecn-sane] abc congestion control on time varying wireless links X-BeenThere: ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of explicit congestion notification's impact on the Internet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:30:12 -0000 I should explain that my motivation in writing the previous review is twofo= ld:=0A=0A1) I think the authors are very capable of doing great and valuabl= e work. And they have in the past done so.=0A=0A2) Intellectual honesty, pr= ofessional honesty, and rigor are values that seem to have been declining o= ver the years, in favor of a pragmatic sense that anything that can get pub= lished is important. (I think it has been reinforced by the idea that count= ing publications in good journals is the only metric of scientific contribu= tion that counts, even at MIT). To me, this is a VERY important value. I le= arned that from my mentors, Jerry Saltzer and F.J. Corbato, who were relent= less in making sure publications were worthy.